Duty Roulette (remove the one person limit)

[Lacerta]

Q: Will you be able to use the Duty Roulette when forming a party with 2 or 3 members?
A: We’ll be improving the Duty Finder extensively for 2.1, but I’m afraid the ability to participate in parties will take until 2.2.

Source: here.

2.2; Please look forward to it.

[frostmagemari]

Source: here.

2.2; Please look forward to it.

So yeah.. it wasn't any sort of design that SQE made it solo only.. it's that they can't seem to program their way out of a paper bag half the time.

[Kincard]

So yeah.. it wasn't any sort of design that SQE made it solo only.. it's that they can't seem to program their way out of a paper bag half the time.

Being a long-time player of XI, I can tell you that you should get comfortable with this.

[jomoru]

So yeah.. it wasn't any sort of design that SQE made it solo only.. it's that they can't seem to program their way out of a paper bag half the time.

and if its because they want to scale the system based on how much outside one's clique one deals with(That is to say, most rewards for solo, no rewards for 3s and 4s)

[frostmagemari]

Being a long-time player of XI, I can tell you that you should get comfortable with this.

I don't think i'll ever be "comfortable" with it, but i know that it's far too late to ever expect that the programming skills of those involved will increase, as they've already claimed to bring in "the best" for the creation of 2.0.

Too bad. The whole point of the duty roulette is to be rewarded for helping newbs/other people who are short a man to make a DF instance happen. If you want to party with friends queue for a specific dungeon.

I always hear everyone say this.. but, there has never been any SQE release saying this is why it's limited to one person. Really, this just sounds like "Battered Person Syndrome" with respect to the community. Everyone is trying their hardest to come up with a reason why they're not allowed to play with friends, but they would never think that SQE is to blame; Instead, it must be that SQE is doing their best to help the lower level players advance in story dungeons (Though that doesn't at all help explain why the high level Duty Roulette is limited to one person) and we simply refuse to understand.

"Yoshida works in mysterious ways" works too though, considering how much some of the community revere the man.

and if its because they want to scale the system based on how much outside one's clique one deals with(That is to say, most rewards for solo, no rewards for 3s and 4s)

Then SQE would be the only MMO company that actively tries to dissuade you from grouping with friends; Then again, i wouldn't be entirely surprised, as there are already several activities that force you to leave the group your in to participate in the content... though, i would attribute all of these inconveniences to not being able to "program their way out of a paper bag".

[jomoru]

Then SQE would be the only MMO company that actively tries to dissuade you from grouping with friends; Then again, i wouldn't be entirely surprised, as there are already several activities that force you to leave the group your in to participate in the content... though, i would attribute all of these inconveniences to not being able to "program their way out of a paper bag".

Or you mean the only one that actively works towards trying to both expand out of cliques and improve the general community. Solo Dungeon finder and the comendation system work towards both ends. IT doesn't matter to Squeenix what dungeons get run, the only reason for a random setup is to help people who don't have 4 premades out. 90 myth tomes in an hour is no where near as efficient as a Garuda or WP farm.

[frostmagemari]

Or you mean the only one that actively works towards trying to both expand out of cliques and improve the general community. Solo Dungeon finder and the comendation system work towards both ends. IT doesn't matter to Squeenix what dungeons get run, the only reason for a random setup is to help people who don't have 4 premades out. 90 myth tomes in an hour is no where near as efficient as a Garuda or WP farm.

If they ever said this was a reason to do it this way, i -might- give them credit for trying something, but they haven't. The players are the ones trying to do the PR work for SQE because they can't imagine that SQE would ever do something wrong, or make a bad decision.

Let met just say though, even if by the remote chance they're trying to foster a community; The fact that they pull 4-8 characters from entirely different realms with no cross-realm chat available after the dungeon (and a forum that is straight out of the bargain bin, posting limits and all) makes the DFR fail completely in it's community building attempt. No one will bother to try and make friends with party members if they know that they will -never- meet up with them again unless they leave their home server (and friends) to start anew on another server.

[jomoru]

Let met just say though, even if by the remote chance they're trying to foster a community; The fact that they pull 4-8 characters from entirely different realms with no cross-realm chat available after the dungeon (and a forum that is straight out of the bargain bin, posting limits and all) makes the DFR fail completely in it's community building attempt. No one will bother to try and make friends with party members if they know that they will -never- meet up with them again unless they leave their home server (and friends) to start anew on another server.

Why does someone need to make friends for there to be a community? it seems like comendations and cross server setup means people will be more polite to strangers, or even feel "forced' to help them. I'd much rather a community where everyone is nicer to people they don't know than "its easy to make friends"

[Axidrain]

If they ever said this was a reason to do it this way, i -might- give them credit for trying something, but they haven't. The players are the ones trying to do the PR work for SQE because they can't imagine that SQE would ever do something wrong, or make a....

the fact still stands. lower level instances and story dungeons especially have a disparity in terms of role division. lots of dd's very few tanks. high level players would never do any of the low level dungeons without roulette. its that simple, i dont understand why people cant wrap their heads around this. if u wanna grind tomes, form a premade and run wp. it takes u frickin 10 minutes!

[Taekrys]

Lacerta saves the day, once again.