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  1. #91
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    JorasClairdelune's Avatar
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    Joras Clairdelune
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    Malboro
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    I have read the previous 10 pages, but it seems that nobody here played the game with 2 computers on the same room

    I play With my Wife, she has her computer next to mine
    We live in Montreal, we have 15-25 ms ping to servers. Its REALLY low
    We have a cable internet connexion (videotron), wich uses Fiber optics to the building.
    I have a good router and at home everything is cabled in ethernet (NOT Wireless).

    Despite this a simple test can show the amount of server lag :

    - connect the 2 accounts
    - bring the 2 ccomputer screens next to each other
    - move a character
    - estimate the time it takes for the caracter to move on the other screen

    results : between 1 and 2 seconds

    I may take a video of this
    Another exemple : when we ride on chocobo, on my screen I can see her chocobo right next to mine, but on her screen i am WELL behind her


    Of course, it's not a problem... until you do PVP, or you are serious about dungeons.... which we are not for now.

    We play MMO for years and it's the first time I see this issue.
    Not remeber having this problem in Everquest, WoW, Rift, Darkfall, Fallen Earth, SWTOR, or Neverwinter


    But it's still a great game, and i am happy to play it !
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    Last edited by JorasClairdelune; 01-01-2014 at 07:00 AM.

  2. #92
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    Archulak's Avatar
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    Lady Archulak
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JorasClairdelune View Post
    -snip-
    Yea that happens all the time but it's not a game play issue it's a purely ascetic thing. By that I mean that all stuff on your screen, as far as aoe's, are right for you(assuming you don't have massive lag from bad hops) but it keeps other players from warping around on your screen unless they or you are experiencing some really rediculus lag. It's there to keep the game looking really smooth even when you get a tiny spike now and then.
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  3. #93
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JorasClairdelune View Post
    I have read the previous 10 pages, but it seems that nobody here played the game with 2 computers on the same room

    I play With my Wife, she has her computer next to mine
    We live in Montreal, we have 15-25 ms ping to servers. Its REALLY low
    We have a cable internet connexion (videotron), wich uses Fiber optics to the building.
    I have a good router and at home everything is cabled in ethernet (NOT Wireless).

    Despite this a simple test can show the amount of server lag :

    - connect the 2 accounts
    - bring the 2 ccomputer screens next to each other
    - move a character
    - estimate the time it takes for the caracter to move on the other screen

    results : between 1 and 2 seconds

    I may take a video of this
    Another exemple : when we ride on chocobo, on my screen I can see her chocobo right next to mine, but on her screen i am WELL behind her


    Of course, it's not a problem... until you do PVP, or you are serious about dungeons.... which we are not for now.

    We play MMO for years and it's the first time I see this issue.
    Not remeber having this problem in Everquest, WoW, Rift, Darkfall, Fallen Earth, SWTOR, or Neverwinter


    But it's still a great game, and i am happy to play it !
    First guess:
    One Server handling one player after another, if both Computer have same distance to server and starting to run at same time, the server still have to handle one after the other! So the one who had the luck to be "noticed" faster starts faster too on the screen... The same Computer is not always faster, so that means the difference you actually see can double in worst case!
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  4. #94
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    Xenobius's Avatar
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    Drak Thar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    First guess:
    One Server handling one player after another, if both Computer have same distance to server and starting to run at same time, the server still have to handle one after the other! So the one who had the luck to be "noticed" faster starts faster too on the screen... The same Computer is not always faster, so that means the difference you actually see can double in worst case!
    This one's rather easy, actually.
    One of the first algorithms game developers came up with to tackle lag and desync was based on calculated "prediction".
    The fact that you can see different player positions on different screens simply means that SE never bothered to implement it, and made a mess of the whole sync.

    On a side note, this also means that Chocobo Racing (if ever implemented) will be downright horrid - every other racer will have crossed the finish line at a different time, resulting in endless "I won, but server announced another as a winner" threads.
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  5. #95
    Player Ed_N_Ants's Avatar
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    Saika Rose
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I have noticed that moving at all times helps with positioning and also doing a party finder group and people on your server also helps with the issue significantly... I am still struggling to beat titan but not because of a lag issue as much as a finding 8 people that are good enough to down titan issue...
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  6. #96
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    reality_check's Avatar
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    Jesse Branford
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    I have noticed that moving at all times helps with positioning and also doing a party finder group and people on your server also helps with the issue significantly... I am still struggling to beat titan but not because of a lag issue as much as a finding 8 people that are good enough to down titan issue...
    Why do you think finding 8 people to down titan is such an issue? People get hit by Weight of the Land and Landslide over, and over, and over and over despite the fact that the mechanic comes at the exact same time on every attempt. I laugh that people think that a small percent of people have this issue. How many times have I been in a group that can't complete Titan EX or even titan HM because of people who get hit by weights and then scream "BUT I WAS OUT OF IT!"
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  7. #97
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    Dianoia's Avatar
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    Red River
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I had no problems before 2.1. Ever since, I've had weird intermittent lag issues.

    My roommate plays this game, also, on the same connection. He has no problems.
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  8. #98
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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    I have noticed that moving at all times helps with positioning and also doing a party finder group and people on your server also helps with the issue significantly... I am still struggling to beat titan but not because of a lag issue as much as a finding 8 people that are good enough to down titan issue...
    That's how I do it in HM. But on EM, moving all time on that tiny arena would get others killed. So I have to rely on a 6th sense to know when to start running, because if I wait until they appear, I'm dead. I might endure it because I love Final Fantasy that much, but I wonder how many others will.

    And my connection with the servers are good to the point where using WTFast made zero difference. And I did the leatrix (?) latency fix.

    I guess I should play with a clock at my side and count the ticks between each move...
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  9. #99
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    The only fix we got to the atrocious FFXIV netcode was a rehash of the encounter we ALL hated with more unforgiving AoE mechanics and what seems like WORSE netcode.

    http://youtu.be/190C7k4wPU8

    These primals were supposed to be a huge highlight of 2.1.

    This is a disappointment. This game will never have decent netcode, and the developers seem to have no idea how to develop content that doesn't HIGHLIGHT the huge problems.
    i see 4 other people dodging landslides and puddles just fine
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  10. #100
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    Rune_Crystalblade's Avatar
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    Snow Desuri
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 71
    I'm on the same server, I have ZERO problems unless something is going on with my connection. Online gaming isn't about up speed or downspeed, it's about Latency, which you sir... Seem to have a truckload of.
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