IS THIS A JOKE?! NOTHING was done to fix the netcode.

[reality_check]

There is so much nonsense in this thread it's incredible. We should NEVER have to pay for a VPN. They need to add more data centers THE END.

Clearly we just don't have the skill required to pay for a VPN.

[Tupsi]

There is so much nonsense in this thread it's incredible. We should NEVER have to pay for a VPN. They need to add more data centers THE END.

VPN only manages your internet connection, it doesn't interact with the game in any way (or else you'd be banned for using something that modifies game code/memory.)

[Asdamine]

Indeed - the problem comes with the hops taken to reach xiv's servers.

If they put the NA server in China, see if your answer would still be the same.

lol...

[Aureliami]

There is so much nonsense in this thread it's incredible. We should NEVER have to pay for a VPN. They need to add more data centers THE END.

How would adding more datacenters help you if your ISP gives you a 2 second delay to the servers?

[Tiggy]

Not worth arguing with it Aureliami. They are convinced it's 100% squares fault and refuse to acknowledge the entire internet that lies between them and the server, and how they effects their game.

[Althea]

This game's community is literally the worst I have ever seen. People bring up legitimate concerns, and then there will be page upon page of people just telling the OP it's their connection, or tell them they're not skilled enough, then will continue to spew a bunch of incorrect facts.

Fact of the matter is, this game's netcode REALLY needs to be fixed. Changing the polling rate from 0.3 to 0.1 in SOME instances is only a bandaid; and doesn't actually fix anything. People have varying connections with a varying amount of hops in between their computer and the server, and this can't be controlled. Having to pay for a VPN service just to have a slightly smoother playing experience is beyond absurd.

Other MMOs get around this problem by employing time stamps with every positional update (giving the server the information that it needs to determine a multitude of things, such as if it was actually possible for you to get out of that AOE, or if you're moving at a speed that's impossible - to stop movement hacking).

Instead we have a backwards system that was initially made to prevent hacking, which ironically made it easier.

White knights/fan boys will continue to enjoy the game, however the millions of potential customers will not. And it's unfortunate, because the game has incredible potential.

[reality_check]

This game's community is literally the worst I have ever seen. People bring up legitimate concerns, and then there will be page upon page of people just telling the OP it's their connection, or tell them they're not skilled enough, then will continue to spew a bunch of incorrect facts.

[snip].

Like x5000

[rabbitzero]

How do you think it would have went down if Microsoft would have told all there customers the red ring of death is not there fault and they just needed to buy a new one?

Actually, i had a launch one, it did red ring, got told it was my fault, and would cost $300 to fix. After a few months, it was discovered they had a failure rate of around 75% in launch consoles. This is a bad analogy.

I have no idea if their code is bad or what, but when i had AT&T DSL, no issues with lag or getting out things. Got Comcast cable, lag often, 90k often, etc. That alone makes me feel it's not all on their end, but somewhere in between.

[Lambadelta]

This game's community is literally the worst I have ever seen. People bring up legitimate concerns, and then there will be page upon page of people just telling the OP it's their connection, or tell them they're not skilled enough, then will continue to spew a bunch of incorrect facts.

I am sorry to say that you have not seen some of the other communties out there in the internet. I'm from Europe and I do not notice half the stuff people complain about. Many people like to blame SE for their own problems, and issues of getting out of aoes, or other similar related content.

No amount of shouting on forums, or bickering with others will change the fact that if Square Enix thought it was a major problem it would be fixed as soon as possible. Seeing them change the position update coding means that they are trying to please the community.

I will leave this thread with the best quote ever "If we could give people a magic hat that would create for them the exact RPG experience they'd always dreamed of, they'd complain about the colour of the hat.""

[Sogi]

This game's community is literally the worst I have ever seen. People bring up legitimate concerns, and then there will be page upon page of people just telling the OP it's their connection, or tell them they're not skilled enough, then will continue to spew a bunch of incorrect facts.

Fact of the matter is, this game's netcode REALLY needs to be fixed. Changing the polling rate from 0.3 to 0.1 in SOME instances is only a bandaid; and doesn't actually fix anything. People have varying connections with a varying amount of hops in between their computer and the server, and this can't be controlled. Having to pay for a VPN service just to have a slightly smoother playing experience is beyond absurd.

Other MMOs get around this problem by employing time stamps with every positional update (giving the server the information that it needs to determine a multitude of things, such as if it was actually possible for you to get out of that AOE, or if you're moving at a speed that's impossible - to stop movement hacking).

Instead we have a backwards system that was initially made to prevent hacking, which ironically made it easier.

White knights/fan boys will continue to enjoy the game, however the millions of potential customers will not. And it's unfortunate, because the game has incredible potential
.

give this player cookies. brilliant deducing.