IS THIS A JOKE?! NOTHING was done to fix the netcode.

[reality_check]

The only fix we got to the atrocious FFXIV netcode was a rehash of the encounter we ALL hated with more unforgiving AoE mechanics and what seems like WORSE netcode.

http://youtu.be/190C7k4wPU8

These primals were supposed to be a huge highlight of 2.1.

This is a disappointment. This game will never have decent netcode, and the developers seem to have no idea how to develop content that doesn't HIGHLIGHT the huge problems.

[Soulscare]

If this is annoying you, don't play Battlefield 4 whatever you do.

On topic, a little tip: Don't jump out of AoE, I heard that the server won't recognise your position whilst you do so.

As soon as you are out of AoE, quickly hit an instant cast. As soon as you use a skill, the server updates your location.

[Tupsi]

The only fix we got to the atrocious FFXIV netcode was a rehash of the encounter we ALL hated with more unforgiving AoE mechanics and what seems like WORSE netcode.

Most people (with the skill) have been clearing primals..np..even to the point of selling them...:x

[reality_check]

Most people (with the skill) have been clearing primals..np..even to the point of selling them...:x

The content is unplayable for me at the moment. Watch the video. You don't need "skill" to beat Titan extreme. You need a connection that FFXIV servers like and play friendly with.

[Madoka]

Should have gone right for landslide, don't jump when dodging aoes

[Xenobius]

Most people (with the skill) have been clearing primals..np..even to the point of selling them...:x

I hate to break it for you, but not everybody lives in Canada and the US, where FFXIV's lag problems range from nonexistent to mildly annoying and are easily fixed using WTFast or any other VPN software.
Many of users across Altantic (you know, where some of playerbase happen to reside) have it bad enough on both "NA/EU" and "JP" server groups. Because, hey, it's totally cool to play a game where every other boss fight boils down to "dodge stuff FAST" when you have to deal with godawful network code and lack of servers NOT somewhere halfway across the world.

[Mezolitik]

On topic, a little tip: Don't jump out of AoE, I heard that the server won't recognise your position whilst you do so.

You should be able to dive. Max Payne style. In slow motion.

The problem is, I think Square can still play the 'it's your system/connection' card. For example, my wireless in Doncaster UK is significantly more useful than my wireless in Leeds for FFXIV. It takes up to twenty seconds for NPCs to load in the latter location.

I'm not defending the netcode - I know there's an issue - but, until everybody has an extreme problem like yourself, I don't expect SE to strip the game down to fix it.

[Soulscare]

You should be able to dive. Max Payne style. In slow motion.

The problem is, I think Square can still play the 'it's your system/connection' card. For example, my wireless in Doncaster UK is significantly more useful than my wireless in Leeds for FFXIV. It takes up to twenty seconds for NPCs to load in the latter location.

I'm not defending the netcode - I know there's an issue - but, until everybody has an extreme problem like yourself, I don't expect SE to strip the game down to fix it.

In Leeds myself, in my opinion, EU servers would fix the problem. However, (this is purely just for me and my FC, I understand its different for every person) it makes it just a little more challenging, if your reactions are there, its not a problem.

[Tupsi]

I hate to break it for you, but not everybody lives in Canada and the US, where FFXIV's lag problems range from nonexistent to mildly annoying and are easily fixed using WTFast or any other VPN software.

You do realize that means it's not a problem with the game itself but the hops particular ISPs are taking to reach the servers..right? SE stated VPN software isn't against ToS which means it's not interacting with the game coding at all - If a program isn't directly interacting with the game's code or memory, doesn't that mean it's not particularly the net code since it's not actually fixing anything with the game itself?

I will be sure to remind the EU players in my FC that they're not clearing primals and only imagined their victories. It is annoying since people even in the US are having problems, but the clear rate is fairly high on our server from what I'm seeing.

As a matter of fact..the only time I ever seen someone blame lag recently was when they utterly failed at Ultima Hard. On Mondays I get a ton of lag in Coil and the like but later in the week that lag clears up, so the servers aren't perfect but the game is still very much playable to a large portion of their playerbase

[Shirai]

I will be sure to remind the EU players in my FC that they're not clearing primals and only imagined their victories.

Oh no, all the AoE's I've dodged, all the battles I have won, they were all a dream?
I'm so sad now...