IS THIS A JOKE?! NOTHING was done to fix the netcode.

[Stryker12]

I shouldn't have to buy another service for a service I'm already paying for. It's like buying a car and there like ooooo you wanted a whole car, you have to buy the actual engine to use it sorry. It's a horrible analogy but you understand, yes some people's isp is to blame but I for one never had lag issues till this patch. All in all square needs to implement more servers across the play base. Customer service is the utmost importance. Aka stop being cheap. Unless in there company model customers don't come first. And if money comes before custom service is that a company you want to associate with?

[Psun]

I used to think lag was more of an excuse than reality until it started happening more to me...

[Billie21]

Another user blaming "netcode" who has absolutely no idea what the words he speaks mean. They didn't fix "netcode" they increased the amount of times per second they sample your player location. Also, "netcode" isn't the problem. They chose a networking paradigm that favors better connections to the server. No amount of better "netcode" will fix the cons of that system. They chose it because of its list of pros. There is a very good reason programs like battleping make the game more playable for those with a high ping. It's because the connection between you and the server is poor which is not ideal for the server style. IF it was the servers problem those programs would have little to no benefit.

Can you explain to us what's so great with this choice? From where I stand, the "pros" would have to be amazing to compensate for such terrible "cons".

[Aegis]

I shouldn't have to buy another service for a service I'm already paying for. It's like buying a car and there like ooooo you wanted a whole car, you have to buy the actual engine to use it sorry. It's a horrible analogy but you understand, yes some people's isp is to blame but I for one never had lag issues till this patch. All in all square needs to implement more servers across the play base. Customer service is the utmost importance. Aka stop being cheap. Unless in there company model customers don't come first. And if money comes before custom service is that a company you want to associate with?

I would argue it's more like paying to use a direct toll-road rather than a congested public highway that goes the long way around.

I would never pay extra for VPN/Tunnelling services. I also am EU-based and had terrible lag. There are fixes in place that may help. See my post (#41). Have you tried those? Leatrix's application in particular was very effective.

If you haven't tried those fixes yet, can you try them and respond in thread if they have been effective for you?

Complaining about it may very well cause SE to fix it, but in the meantime, why not see if you can compensate for it a bit yourself?

[Tiggy]

I shouldn't have to buy another service for a service I'm already paying for. It's like buying a car and there like ooooo you wanted a whole car, you have to buy the actual engine to use it sorry. It's a horrible analogy but you understand, yes some people's isp is to blame but I for one never had lag issues till this patch. All in all square needs to implement more servers across the play base. Customer service is the utmost importance. Aka stop being cheap. Unless in there company model customers don't come first. And if money comes before custom service is that a company you want to associate with?

You're right. So why don't you call your ISP and complain they are giving you a terrible connection to the SE servers? You pay for good service that you clearly aren't getting.

[Tupsi]

You casted an entire spell while moving and you're telling me that your connection isn't an issue?

It's ironic no one caught this.

P.S. I installed a Chinese Blade and Soul client about a week ago. My connection to China is far from perfect, but guess what, even after soloing some instance boss (which took me roughly 15 minutes of careful dodging, ability chaining and positioning) I haven't been hit by any telegraphed attacks I wasn't in range of. Magic, I tell you.

P.S you're using a VPN or way to get around the IP block China has on the majority of their newer MMORPGs - tunneling services, as we know, forces a connection and takes the most direct route.

[Xenobius]

P.S you're using a VPN or way to get around the IP block China has on the majority of their newer MMORPGs - tunneling services, as we know, forces a connection and takes the most direct route.

It's actually hilarious how people assume something they don't know the first thing about.
Because BnS, unlike many CN-hosted games, does not enforce any kind of IP blocking, or even registration checking, for that matter.
I was able to register an account, download it and play (it's f2p over there) without having to use any proxies or VPNs. And while it is laggy at times - with occasional freezes and stuttering which is unavoidable considering great distances (trace goes over 15 hops for me) and server load, it has a completely different feel.

You're right. So why don't you call your ISP and complain they are giving you a terrible connection to the SE servers? You pay for good service that you clearly aren't getting.

I have a better idea. Why pay for a clunky service at all?
Might just stop renewing those subs until SE acknowledges the problem and stops hiding behind legions of white knights and lame excuses like "fixing this would make server load exceed our capacity".
Because frankly, seeing how patches go, FFXIV:ARR is a rather average game which will need a lot of time to sort out it's problems, a simple WoW clone not that much different from RIFT, SWTOR and other withering MMOs, aside from having a "Final Fantasy" theme.

[Richiealvian]

It's actually hilarious how people assume something they don't know the first thing about.
Because BnS, unlike many CN-hosted games, does not enforce any kind of IP blocking, or even registration checking, for that matter.
I was able to register an account, download it and play (it's f2p over there) without having to use any proxies or VPNs. And while it is laggy at times - with occasional freezes and stuttering which is unavoidable considering great distances (trace goes over 15 hops for me) and server load, it has a completely different feel.



I have a better idea. Why pay for a clunky service at all?
Might just stop renewing those subs until SE acknowledges the problem and stops hiding behind legions of white knights and lame excuses like "fixing this would make server load exceed our capacity".
Because frankly, seeing how patches go, FFXIV:ARR is a rather average game which will need a lot of time to sort out it's problems, a simple WoW clone not that much different from RIFT, SWTOR and other withering MMOs, aside from having a "Final Fantasy" theme.

I wish you luck in your future endeavors! It was.. nice? knowing you and having you here.

[reality_check]

It's amazing when 1 person in the raid says, "I WAS CLEARLY OUT OF THAT!" yet 7 other people lived through it. Just please either learn to work with the system or move on to another system.

Watch the video again please. 3 people died on the same weight of the land. The server bogs down and doesn't update quickly enough and 3 people die. Also look at where they died relation to the group. The server toasted all 3 of us because it didn't update fast enough.

[reality_check]

You casted an entire spell while moving and you're telling me that your connection isn't an issue?

No amount of connection lag should make a spell cast while moving. This is the dumbest argument ever. NO other mmorpg will let you cast a spell while moving if you lag for a split second. Your client will cancel the spell then the server will verify the client's authenticity when your connection kicks back in.

This is awful poor programming on SE's part.