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  1. #1
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    VenusCaelestis's Avatar
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    SE, I hate the Crystal Tower.

    Hi guys,

    I had to come say something about this because, well, I hate this dungeon with a passion.

    Why do I hate it?

    Well, there's a lot of reasons. It's a zergfest for one. The dungeon is not hard. The only thing that makes it hard is the apparent elitest's we have running it. I'm not even sure why anyone would go into level 60 content meant for casual play and act like they are better than everyone else. I can only assume they can't run coil because no one on their server actually likes them so they take it out on casual players in CT. I'm not sure, but I have two characters almost in full i90 and let me tell you, it is really unbecoming of some of you to act like such children. This is casual, level60 content guys. It is a joke when you tell a new player to get on your level.
    No one wants to be on your level. I am sick of reading it, to be honest, because I want others to play this game with me. So shut up, or just don't run CT if your version of giving someone pointers is giving them graphic instructions on how to suck your nether regions.

    The freaking loot lock out. I HATE IT. I can't stand going in this place and seeing loot just go to WASTE. It drives me batty, to say the least. For one, tell me why anyone should bother staying in the dungeon after they win loot? There is no reason. The dungeon is incredibly dull to go through, it takes a lot of time, and the myth/philo reward is not worth it to stay, and it is so full of cry babies it's maddening. I know a lot of you would probably disagree, but I'd rather have lock out like coil. As it is now, barely anyone runs this as a group anyways because we can't run it as an alliance, and by the time we can 2.2 will be out. Hopefully by that time, SE will have lifted the loot lockout anyways, because I can't imagine this will be in for the long term. At least, I hope not. I'm sure many people are running it to get certain pieces, but if you are wanting to ilv80 an alt job, and you want a chest piece first, and that drops on last boss, you have to pass every other piece that may drop for your job gambling that maybe, just maybe, you will get the chest. Oh and not to mention, if you just happen to derp and forget to pass quick enough, or everyone leaves before you can click the pass button, and you get screwed with loot you don't want. I know SE didn't even think about this possibility considering the live letter, so FIX this for crying out loud. I can't stand it, and I don't understand why others feel this is a better way to do it.

    Thirdly, it is painfully obvious this dungeon should have been in at release. It is a tutorial for coil. So here is what scares me about this. SE has said that CT should have been out at release, which means the new coil turns should have been out in December instead of CT. So, since they pushed back CT, but did not release any new coil turns yet, doesn't this mean they are still going to be behind come 2.2? The loot lockout on CT seems to point to SE saying it's gonna be awhile until we have new floors of CT, even though they should be releasing a new content patch in February(?) that theoretically should include new coil turns and new CT floors. We all know this won't happen, but why has SE said they are getting back on track after this update? When it appears they will not.

    I love this game. I just don't get this dungeon. It was the biggest disappointment to come out of patch 2.1. It is not fun. While most everything in these types of games are disguised grinds, CT makes no bones about what it is. It is a grind if you want a certain piece, while you get to watch loot go to waste. The amount of content that was released is plenty without having to slow certain players down more (who, anyways is really being affected by this when myth cap was raised so high? Now casuals can deck themselves out in full i90 almost before 2.2 is released regardless.) I get the vanity system that will come out, and I am excited for it, but why on earth make getting items that will be mainly for looks so aggravating? I just don't get it.

    This is the only dungeon I absolutely feel like I have to do just to get it out of the way. It is the one thing in this game I actually hate doing. There was so much content put into 2.1 that I don't think a lock out is even needed. All of the other dungeons were done so well it seems clear that SE did not know how to fit a raid in properly. Pushing CT out without alliance grouping has only hurt this dungeon more. So please, SE, rethink your strategy on slowing down our progression (yea, right) and lift the loot lockout, and prioritize the ability for us to at least group as an alliance. Or at least, if you are going to have a lock out, only lock out need rolls. Who cares if parties will abuse it or not, it is better than what we have now.

    If this is the way it is going to be, I can tell you CT will be the red headed step child of your dungeons. The pretty gear is not enough to make me care about going through this mess again.

    (Really SE? 1000 characters?)

    (and I screwed up the edit, go me)
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    Last edited by VenusCaelestis; 12-31-2013 at 06:09 AM.

  2. 12-31-2013 06:04 AM
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    pointless now

  3. #2
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    Seoki's Avatar
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    Swift Slaughter
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Screw the elitists. If they really think they're the best and can hand any situation have some fun with them.
    Get to the first room? AFK CHECK run in and grab all the adds, see what happens.

    Never gets old
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  4. #3
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    Mythic Rose
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    Cactuar
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    If you use the "edit" feature, you can get around the 1000 character limit

    My only gripe (as it were) are the groups that just troll around in CT (generally tank related as dps can't really do much trolling aside from verbalial).

    Bone dragon : Attempt to provoke just before landing a halone/butcher block in an attempt to turn bone dragon toward everyone for his breath attack. Tanks/dps purposefully dragging skeletons from ot her tanks/dps toward the dragon or toward other skeletons.

    Atmos : Groups that refuse to stand on their circle (while generally insulting the other groups) so others can actually their Atmos mobs.

    Ghost/Magic Pot fight : Can't think of this guy's name. Trolls just love to stand around doing nothing be it attacking the boss or defending their pot.

    Behemoth : Tanks (though can be anyone) refuse to click on the lightning towers, place comets in places behemoth and friends can/will cleave them, try to time provokes so behemoth cleaves the rest of the groups, etc...

    Allagan Hero : Can't think of his name. Most of the time it's not even tanks trolling here (they all seem to want to fight for "main" tank). Biggest trolling comes from groups choosing not to stand on their circle and wiping everyone.

    The above is why I'm starting to dislike Crystal Tower and wish multiple FC groups could queue together without trying to "trick" the DF. As the week (and weeks) progress, the trolling becomes more and more common. It is what it is....for duty finder. Decent zone otherwise.
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    Last edited by mythicrose; 12-31-2013 at 06:19 AM.

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    Jermz Fizzlespark
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I've only ran CT 3 times, my main is BLM but I've tanked it all, haven't been in there on a DPS. I had a team "Group A" thinking that since their tanks were in i90 they should be Main tank on bosses and such. Welll... lets just say that my Lala Warrrior in Full DL Armor and Accessories with Ifrits Axe tanked King Behemoth flawlessly, while we wiped twice on the first attempts with the i90 tanks. They didn't like that, started talking down to my group. It was ridiculous. None-the-less, I've enjoyed CT as a Tank, even helped me decide on Warrior being my Secondary Main. I at least try to get a good FC or LS group going before queuing, i think Solo Queueing in for it would probably make me punch someone. Keep at it, and just remember, get that one piece of loot you can use and you don't have to do it for a week
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    Taran Nos
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    CT is super boring. I wish it had a real lockout because I feel like I'm missing out when I don't get my one piece of gear per week.
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  7. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    If you use the "edit" feature, you can get around the 1000 character limit
    Thank you! Fully posted.
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    You do realize that the entire process of bypassing the 1000 character limit is as simple as hitting the edit button after you've posted...

    It likely took you as much time to throw in that second post complaining about the limit as it would have taken you to simply copy/paste your original full length post.
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  9. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    You do realize that the entire process of bypassing the 1000 character limit is as simple as hitting the edit button after you've posted...

    It likely took you as much time to throw in that second post complaining about the limit as it would have taken you to simply copy/paste your original full length post.
    I spend no time on the forum. So no, I didn't realize. Why have a 1000 char lockout but not for edit?

    Oh, and do you have anything to say regarding what I posted? Or do you just like crapping all over others for making a not very obvious mistake?
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    Last edited by VenusCaelestis; 12-31-2013 at 06:12 AM. Reason: i likes the edits

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    I love Crystal Tower. Just make the next level of Crystal Tower more challenging. CT is too easy, lol.
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  11. #10
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranNos View Post
    CT is super boring. I wish it had a real lockout because I feel like I'm missing out when I don't get my one piece of gear per week.
    This is really the biggest issue to me. The loot lockout creates the need to run the dungeon endlessly with no reward until the item you want drops. THIS is what makes CT such a grind.
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