Quote Originally Posted by Vivejun View Post
people who say you should be able to kill titan heart with lb1, please try and do that with an avg item level of 57, which a lot of people have when they try it in DF. like i said i wish they had a higher ilvl requirement, but right now its way to low to do with without lb1/lb2.
Did your 2 healer and OT go DPS during heart phase, as in healer in Cleric Stance on/off to heal/dps and tank go Sword Oath/no Defiance? The difference between iLvl 57 and iLvl 90 is not that much, not as much as people trying to make it out as. 8 ppl iLvl 57 should have enough DPS compared to 5 ppl iLvl 90, and people already killed it with 5 ppl only at iLvl 80ish, without LB. Not to mention that there should be a whole lot of bored iLvl 90 DFing Titan HM, unless that's the difference between JP server and Western server. FYI I did 8 out of 9 Relic in DF.