limit break building nerf

[alhandra]

you dont need a limit break to kill the heart in titan or the nails in ifrit. people just like ez mode. if you cant coordinate your group to focus fire on nails going clockwise or you cant get your group to save its offensive CD's to burn the heart down, then an LB probably isnt going to help much either

[Dhex]

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Thats because you're technically designated as "in-combat" for most of that dungeon. Limit will build on its own as long as you are desginated as "in-combat"; for instance you can observe the same phenomenon in Coil Turn 2.

[whiskeybravo]

Yea I thought it was kind of funny, SE announces penalties for stacking multiple classes, yet I don't remember seeing so many stacked classes from DF. Probably just because they mentioned it so I started noticing, but not even the DF will get it right, so why continue with the penalty?

As to LB building, from my understanding there are a lot contributing factors, but some contribute more than others. For instance, the auto-attack phase is building LB from Tank taking damage. Supposedly other high contributing factors are clutch heals (saving from 10-20% health), critical attacks from DPS classes, and interrupting special attacks (ones that can be, anyways. could also explain why LB2 is harder for Ifrit nails since not every erruption is getting stunned anymore).

[Vivejun]

people who say you should be able to kill titan heart with lb1, please try and do that with an avg item level of 57, which a lot of people have when they try it in DF. like i said i wish they had a higher ilvl requirement, but right now its way to low to do with without lb1/lb2.

also i know its possible to build lb from auto attacking, but now that it takes 2-3x longer every time just for your DF group to wipe its a touch more frustrating. it just seems like a pointless nerf. its so hard not to stack classes with the amount classes to choose from right now. you dont have 1 of each, why do you get penalized so harshly in a duty finder.

[MariyaShidou]

people who say you should be able to kill titan heart with lb1, please try and do that with an avg item level of 57, which a lot of people have when they try it in DF. like i said i wish they had a higher ilvl requirement, but right now its way to low to do with without lb1/lb2.

Did your 2 healer and OT go DPS during heart phase, as in healer in Cleric Stance on/off to heal/dps and tank go Sword Oath/no Defiance? The difference between iLvl 57 and iLvl 90 is not that much, not as much as people trying to make it out as. 8 ppl iLvl 57 should have enough DPS compared to 5 ppl iLvl 90, and people already killed it with 5 ppl only at iLvl 80ish, without LB. Not to mention that there should be a whole lot of bored iLvl 90 DFing Titan HM, unless that's the difference between JP server and Western server. FYI I did 8 out of 9 Relic in DF.

[SarcasmMisser]

Get people with better gear, it takes no time at all to get darklight now and it's a whole load easier than sitting there auto-attacking for a lb gauge.

[FreakinZMartin]

The nerf was unnecessary and not needed, please remove the nerf.

[Kal-El]

For people struggling with Titan -

Use the party finder feature to insure your party are realtively geared. (I got my first relic via DF. Pure luck that my party knew what to do)
If people are dying then they either can't avoid AOE or they aren't geared enough to eat the tumults.
Healers shouldn't have to cast a direct cure on anyone apart from the tank. Everyone else should only require medica / II and Succor.
If the tank is eating every bomb he's doing it wrong. At ilevel 85 I still avoid bombs. You get sweet spots - use them!
The heart phase doesn't need a LB but it does help. Destroy the first gaol and ignore the 2nd. Save all Damage buffs for that moment. Heck use a DEX/STR potion if you want a 15s buff.
Use food. 2.1 came with the greatest buff - not losing food benefits after death.

Titan isn't as hard as it's made out. Learn the rotation and you'll be golden

[Thorauku]

Which DF dungeon exactly requires a Lv 2 / Lv 3 LB?

[Parodine]

I know Ifrit HM struggles are gonna make people 'lawl nub' but with the stun resistance building much faster now and the LB build nerf on unfortunately randomized DF parties, it's kinda hard now to do with the people gear range it's aimed for. =/ The LB nerf makes getting a LB3 that much harder and since the stun resistance builds faster, there are less successful stuns to jumpstart the gauge. You don't need LB3 sure, but when you've got people queuing in basic AF like was normally accepted, it's not a walk in the park.