JP Only!

[Petdo]

This word is back with 2.1 party finder. It was a popular word in FFXI because FFXI have only mixed server ( JP/NA ) and seem like JP people don't want NA to join them.

The reason I post here because I'm playing from SEA and I have to play on JP data center to minimize latency ( Masamune ).So I have no choice but to join JP party from time to time.

People using this word in every party finder this week and it get my nerve. I don't know why they hate English speaker players this much.

Do you guys every fake JP and join these party? And how you do that to avoid them detect our inability to understand JP language?

[SarcasmMisser]

I just type in Japanese, there's nothing wrong with demanding people can communicate for a fight where people want to communicate. I've asked for english speakers as well in PF, there's no malicious intent from most of those JP only groups they just want everyone to be on the same page.

Also an anecdote. I was fate grinding in quarrymill and one Japanese player was in my group, and when he said he couldn't speak English I replied to him in Japanese that I can understand both. He was so incredibly relieved and started venting to me how he just wants to play with Japanese speakers, and has had trouble with groups all night. You gotta put yourself in their shoes, it's not their fault the community just decided to squat on Tonberry as the unofficial SEA server. If anything blame SE for thinking all the English speakers are on the opposite side of the pacific.

[NeoAmon]

It is their choice and there is nothing else to be said about it. It sucks but people have the freedom to play with whomever they wish to play with.

[HumsterMKX]

It is their choice and there is nothing else to be said about it. It sucks but people have the freedom to play with whomever they wish to play with.

In before, they shouldn't let JP, NA, EU play together, rants which will slowly devovled into they should have servers in their respective countries.

[HumsterMKX]

"JP ONRY" been around since FFXI. Ya it happens. Can't really blame them.

Simple stuff like WP speedruns, AK, CT, they don't really care. But coil, the 3 extreme primals, ya, you have trouble joining them.

Come to think of it, do you have an FC to help you out?

[ZohnoReecho]

It's not just japanese people.
A couple of times I tried adding D E F to the duty finder. I've got only french members and no matter what, they kept talking french. They didn't even try to use the autotranslate function.
Of course not all of them act the same way, but since then I stopped putting other flags besides E in the DF.

[Kuwagami]

It's not just japanese people.
A couple of times I tried adding D E F to the duty finder. I've got only french members and no matter what, they kept talking french. They didn't even try to use the autotranslate function.
Of course not all of them act the same way, but since then I stopped putting other flags besides E in the DF.

As a french player, I can tell more about this.

Usually, french people are playing always in community, barely leaving Moogle/Shiva/Ragnarok groups. So they are used to get 4/8/24 french people and don't care much about the few non-french speaking people.
It sucks a lot, and I usually just talk in english even with other french people as a mark of respect (unless I have something really urgent to say at one precise person, making it more useful in french for the instant understanding).

If when asked nicely to talk in english, they still refuse to do so, they are sadly the worst part of the French community. Sadly, The best part is commonly speaking english and often doesn't even bother saying they are fench, because origin shouldn't matter in a group, and moreover, they don't want to recieve some "mmo-racism" because French people are being ignored and hated for being "haters and elitist jerks".

Bah, all countries are the same.

[Tonkra]

It's not just japanese people.
A couple of times I tried adding D E F to the duty finder. I've got only french members and no matter what, they kept talking french. They didn't even try to use the autotranslate function.
Of course not all of them act the same way, but since then I stopped putting other flags besides E in the DF.

hello, and what about the german players?^^

Let's not forget the French and German only please. Nothing wrong with that. However, they will start talking French/German if they see 1 other member has their language highlighted. Heck, sometimes they'll just type in French/German regardless. I can manage since you know, school and all so you know the basics. Still think it's really rude.

german only players? XD seems to be rare i think.

and yah of course, why cant people communicate a little in german if they see there is someone with german language also.... if they stick to english afterwards i dont see any problem with it. the problem i see is that many frensh player (no offense, but it is like it is) cant speak english (commercials in english are forbidden in france). in Germany its really rare that someone doesnt speak english at all..

i worked in a hotel for a very long time. and it mostly have been frensh or italian people who are unable to speak english

[Kardayel]

i worked in a hotel for a very long time. and it mostly have been frensh or italian people who are unable to speak english

Ok, for the french part, i can try to explain it: Our foreign language education is crap... I seriously learned more english by playing FFVI than in 10 years at school ><

I don't know if it has changed till i finished school but the only thing you learned was really basic vocabulary and some grammar... And you learn more to write/read it than speak it... So... well... don't expect many french older than 25 to be fluent in english... (and here i just hope the next generation had a better education than mine)

[Mikita]

Ok, for the french part, i can try to explain it: Our foreign language education is crap... I seriously learned more english by playing FFVI than in 10 years at school ><

I don't know if it has changed till i finished school but the only thing you learned was really basic vocabulary and some grammar... And you learn more to write/read it than speak it... So... well... don't expect many french older than 25 to be fluent in english... (and here i just hope the next generation had a better education than mine)

That's pretty close to how things are in Japan as well.

There are a lot of English teachers who do try very hard and the curriculum itself is not all bad ... but perhaps a big part of the problem is that most young people don't see the relevance of learning English. The language hasn't really gained widespread use as a real communication tool in Japanese society. As a result, many short-sighted students see it as something akin to trigonometry -- i.e. something you study in school and probably never use again once you graduate.