That's something I would have reported.The problem is "JP Only" doesn't just mean Japanese language only, but in some cases Japanese people only. I tried being nice and asking a party finder group if I could join (in Japanese) for Ifrit Extreme, which I was well geared for and already experienced. I was turned down because I wasn't 日本人 despite being someone that lives in Japan and can communicate fine. A person's race outside of the game shouldn't matter, and has no place in the party finder. It's fine if they only want people that can speak Japanese. That's what the language selection is for, but phrases such as "WHITE ONLY" or "<INSERT ANY OTHER RACE> ONLY" wouldn't be tolerable, so why is this?
The thing is - it actually does mean Japanese language only most of the time, especially after talking with many of them throughout my 11 years in FFXI and 3 years in FFXIV. There's always exceptions but you're making assumptions it's them being racist when it's not most of the time. Unless you yourself are fluent in Japanese they have absolutely no way to know if you're a Japanese person or not unless you used a translator. (And they can tell.) Your client language means nothing as you can change that to whatever - lots of Japanese players play on the English client as well as the Japanese one.


Let be realistic, if you get to choose with which people you want to play you will most certain pick the people that speak the same language, the same apply to them. The not trusting of people that have speak jp to them but the client is set to english is because when they ask for "jp only" the english people responded in jp using a translator, and face it the traslator is good but sometime the meaning of what you want to say is lost, so they decide to not trust a jp response and just check the client to see if you are trully undestanding in jp.
I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.
but when a group goes na only they r told how wrong they for excluding
This isn't a racism issue, it's a communication one. Back in FFXI I got into a lot of "JP only!" parties because i was willing to use the auto-translate function. It wasn't perfect but it was enough to communicate where we were going to camp, how much tp everyone had, when and in what order we would use weapon skills, and when to magic burst. Since a lot of people just would not use the auto-translate regardless of what language they spoke, it caused a lot of frustration and could kill a multilingual party. With this as a concern, it's easier to advertise that you want the group to all speak the same language. Spend some time with the auto-translate and get used to it, ARR's kind of sucks compared to 11's but it has enough to get basic thoughts through. If you're willing to use it then other people will probably be willing to as well.


^Using auto-translate is a good way to get kicked in a lot of JP groups, and most people who complain about getting kicked probably used it. I agree that you don't actually have to communicate much for a lot of content, so I don't see what the big deal is. At least to the point of checking client language, has there been a lot of people using machine translated Japanese? It's obvious I guess but gets the point across we're not writing a dissertation here. I never use it but my limited Japanese is more than enough when everyone knows the content already, and I haven't encountered people who were bothered about what my native language is yet.
In any case I encounter people who speak English as a second language all the time so I can't relate to that way of thinking at all. It's not a mutual feeling, Tonberry is the unofficial SEA community server and we're a very multicultural and multilingual crowd, you would strain to find exclusion there based on country. Honestly the rest of the world gets along fine so I play the smallest violin at the plight of the JP only crowd.

Its a communication thing clearly. You know how often you join an ex primal, or a coil group and you have to explain mechanics. Or make corrections to your strat based on the people in your group? For instance, depending on your party build in turn 4, you tackle soldiers and knights in different orders, or you do phase 5 and 6 in different orders. If you are in a 7/8 JP pt and you dont speak japanese, they have NO way to tell you what strat they are using. That makes you a liability since you are not on the same page, and there is no way to correct it.
Its like being in a DF group with someone staring at the battle tab unable to read party chat when you are trying to ask them to do something different. Its just frustrating, and leads to fail.
Last edited by Hanabira; 01-23-2014 at 01:23 AM.
This is what happens when WoW fans meet up with Anime fans.
It really doesn't bother because we have assholes and retards in every country and in every continent. Besides, nations are fiction.
not surprised when ARR came out and people would spam JP servers and yell racist stuff cause their servers worked fine.
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