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    JP Only!

    This word is back with 2.1 party finder. It was a popular word in FFXI because FFXI have only mixed server ( JP/NA ) and seem like JP people don't want NA to join them.

    The reason I post here because I'm playing from SEA and I have to play on JP data center to minimize latency ( Masamune ).So I have no choice but to join JP party from time to time.

    People using this word in every party finder this week and it get my nerve. I don't know why they hate English speaker players this much.

    Do you guys every fake JP and join these party? And how you do that to avoid them detect our inability to understand JP language?
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    I just type in Japanese, there's nothing wrong with demanding people can communicate for a fight where people want to communicate. I've asked for english speakers as well in PF, there's no malicious intent from most of those JP only groups they just want everyone to be on the same page.

    Also an anecdote. I was fate grinding in quarrymill and one Japanese player was in my group, and when he said he couldn't speak English I replied to him in Japanese that I can understand both. He was so incredibly relieved and started venting to me how he just wants to play with Japanese speakers, and has had trouble with groups all night. You gotta put yourself in their shoes, it's not their fault the community just decided to squat on Tonberry as the unofficial SEA server. If anything blame SE for thinking all the English speakers are on the opposite side of the pacific.
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    Last edited by SarcasmMisser; 12-30-2013 at 10:47 PM.

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    It is their choice and there is nothing else to be said about it. It sucks but people have the freedom to play with whomever they wish to play with.
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    "JP ONRY" been around since FFXI. Ya it happens. Can't really blame them.

    Simple stuff like WP speedruns, AK, CT, they don't really care. But coil, the 3 extreme primals, ya, you have trouble joining them.

    Come to think of it, do you have an FC to help you out?
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    Last edited by HumsterMKX; 12-30-2013 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    It is their choice and there is nothing else to be said about it. It sucks but people have the freedom to play with whomever they wish to play with.
    In before, they shouldn't let JP, NA, EU play together, rants which will slowly devovled into they should have servers in their respective countries.
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    It's not just japanese people.
    A couple of times I tried adding D E F to the duty finder. I've got only french members and no matter what, they kept talking french. They didn't even try to use the autotranslate function.
    Of course not all of them act the same way, but since then I stopped putting other flags besides E in the DF.
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    I named my cat (RL one O.o) "Onry" inspired from the "JP ONRY" we used to see a lot of in FFXI

    Honestly though, it's more about being comfortable communicating strategies than anything, would be quite hard when they can't speak English properly and you can't speak Japanese.

    Of course you still have those who outright refuse English speakers for no reason, much like you have English speakers who don't like grouping with French speakers, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    It's not just japanese people.
    A couple of times I tried adding D E F to the duty finder. I've got only french members and no matter what, they kept talking french. They didn't even try to use the autotranslate function.
    Of course not all of them act the same way, but since then I stopped putting other flags besides E in the DF.
    As a french player, I can tell more about this.

    Usually, french people are playing always in community, barely leaving Moogle/Shiva/Ragnarok groups. So they are used to get 4/8/24 french people and don't care much about the few non-french speaking people.
    It sucks a lot, and I usually just talk in english even with other french people as a mark of respect (unless I have something really urgent to say at one precise person, making it more useful in french for the instant understanding).

    If when asked nicely to talk in english, they still refuse to do so, they are sadly the worst part of the French community. Sadly, The best part is commonly speaking english and often doesn't even bother saying they are fench, because origin shouldn't matter in a group, and moreover, they don't want to recieve some "mmo-racism" because French people are being ignored and hated for being "haters and elitist jerks".

    Bah, all countries are the same.
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    Well.. there are usually 3 different cases where you can find JP-ONRY as an absolute requirement:

    1: JP crappers, still learning the content. They still belive Coil or Extremes must be done chitchatting or discussing strategies with every member
    (when we all know 0 chat is needed, just some macro with sounds at best to warn the group, Twintania included)

    On this point i must say even using sounds if the player is absolutely not aware of what to do on that sound-emote , hear an emote with japanese text still puzzled about what is going on surely doesn't help.
    One more reason because even if the group will not chitchat at all and just using sounds, they still pretend JP ONRY players. I guess it's meant to reduce crappers joining and not able to learn the fight for communication issues.

    2: JP players bored to deal with E community.
    On this point you have to thanks those huge amount of wierdos on E community trashing everyone with their pathetic attitude.
    Which is : a player lacking any sane form of patience being a quitter at 1st wipe ruining a run on fights like primals/any content expecially where the player cannot be replaced (one thing drives mad a japanese player: waste time),
    unrespectful wierdo typing in english some trash attacking other players (JP players not even able to understand what he said sometimes lol) at first wipe, and..
    no need to continue we had a lot of threads talking about the infamous junk E community don't we?

    3: Simple racism.
    Xenophoby, quite widespread in japan against any gaijin, western on top. Social issue, even nowadays on a so modern and hyperconnected society.
    I lost the count of how many times i saw with my eyes japanese men/women attacking a gaijin simply walking on UENO park, just because gaijin

    Pick one, do a /shrug and move on. 3rd is surely the one you cannot fix, regadless of how fluent you can be speaking japanese
    Quote Originally Posted by Petdo View Post
    Do you guys every fake JP and join these party? And how you do that to avoid them detect our inability to understand JP language?
    You cannot fake your origin: if you are still with them not instakicked you're just tolerated for desperation mostly, until you show you understand what is going on and what that emotesound means, eventually.
    If you wonder how they know it, they just check the profile: E F G is underlined, it means you're a gaijin, regardless if you checked J on your profile (meaning you can speak japanese or just be japanese playing with an european/american account)
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    Last edited by Teon; 12-30-2013 at 11:16 PM.

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    If you show that you are a player with skill you will be invited to these JP Only parties. But if you are demanding and rude well..
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