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  1. #21
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    When I did PvP, I did Lv40 cap, as my 42 WHM, and both my wins gave me a total of 50% of the exp needed to get to next level.

    Maybe I misread what you posted, but you do get exp.
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    I'm tempted to do pvp now to test it, but i'm super tired and wouldn't do my team a favour (aka I probably wouldn't win. lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    When I did PvP, I did Lv40 cap, as my 42 WHM, and both my wins gave me a total of 50% of the exp needed to get to next level.

    Maybe I misread what you posted, but you do get exp.
    I see. I did try a match and lost and was awarded nothing. I choose to only do lvl 50 at that point since I was awarded nothing. Exp should be given win or loose. For instance, if I run a dungeon or guild hest, I gain exp for each enemy killed, however, if I complete the dungeon or guild hest, I am awarded with a bonus. In PvP, this bonus should be given to the winning team, however, both teams should receive a good base exp that is deserving of their time spent. Basically, the same amount as a top fate for that lvl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    It gives you PvP experience, which is completely different than what we are talking about on this post. The PVP experience goes towards your ranking, which allows you to equip better gear and PvP abilities. It does not increase your class level in any way, and it should.
    No.
    If you win, you get PvE exp, PvP exp and the PvP coins. If you lost you get only PvP exp and PvP coins (but less than from a win).

    Quote Originally Posted by amnie View Post
    edit: I guess all of this doesn't really matter if you do indeed get exp for winning, then it's just BS that you only get it for winning. lol
    It is not BS that the focus in PvP is PvP stuff and PvE exp only a bonus for the winners.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-30-2013 at 06:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post


    It is not BS that the focus in PvP is PvP stuff and PvE exp only a bonus for the winners.
    All other high end MMO's that have pvp reward all players whether they win or loose, experience points towards their class. The winners get more, but everyone participating receives exp. This game should be no different. And there is nothing within the game that would change for the negative if exp was given to both winners and losers. It would just be, yet another way to level a class in this game that you can choose, if you would like. Options are good business.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    No.
    If you win, you get PvE exp, PvP exp and the PvP coins. If you lost you get only PvP exp and PvP coins (but less than from a win).


    It is not BS that the focus in PvP is PvP stuff and PvE exp only a bonus for the winners.
    explain to me why people should get 'punished' for having bad player in their group. explain to me why people should get punished for having the other team 'cheating' with the 3 people pre-made thing.

    ready. set. go.


    (it's already bad enough these groups get PVP rank faster. leveling up on top of that just really hurts my stomach)
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by amnie View Post
    so... hm.. not sure why this is an issue, really. even if people do this, they will always be on 'both sides', meaning you will still have a chance of either having good people on your team - or not. there will always be gear and skill difference. on both teams. they won't try to specifically queue with you.

    not forgetting to mention that this game is prime example of more restrictions only meaning people will be more creative in their ways to fck people over. (nothing's stopping people from playing in costumes now, y'know)
    True, but no reason for people to enter pvp unless they want pvp. Giving exp would be incentive for people who normally wouldn't pvp to come for exp. No reason for people to enter pvp in costumes now, unless they want to troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightchaus View Post
    True, but no reason for people to enter pvp unless they want pvp. Giving exp would be incentive for people who normally wouldn't pvp to come for exp. No reason for people to enter pvp in costumes now, unless they want to troll.
    You can put all the EXP you want on PVP, i still wont do it.


    EXP as a bonus to the winning side gives incentive to win unlike other MMOs that give experience to the losing side as well. Giving exp to the losers would lead to afk exp farming to go with the afk Wolf Mark farming we have currently. Simple solution there though, you only get Marks if you participate to a certain extent (Damage done or healing). People can still fail on purpose, but they can't AFK for it.

    We saw with FATE farmers an influx of 50s who barely knew how to do more than AoE everything in sight in a dungeon, people who wore level 20s gear into HMs and AK/WP. Giving XP to the losers would make the FATE farmers look good by comparison, since they at least playedtheir way to 50.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    What are you talking about? Who said anything about costumes or naked people? All other MAJOR MMO's that have PVP pre endgame offer exp rewards along with other rewards and there is never any negative issues with afk people or half naked costumed players. I do not know what games you have played in the past, or if you are just negative to all criticism. Noone is complaining about a time sink or talking about lack of content. Try to stay on topic when you respond to forum posts. Noone has gone negative until you.
    I am sorry, didn't know this thread was only for positive feedback and for flocking your dolphin. Leveling in itself is a time sink and I think there are already lots of ways to level. Giving exp in pvp is not needed. They nerfed fate grinding and I doubt they want create pvp grinding. You should read all the post in the thread, before crying off topic.
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    No! PvP should remain PvP and not award PvE experience, just like PvE skills aren't used the same way in PvP....
    Oh wait
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