PVP Should Give Experience Points

[amnie]

Yes, exactly what pvp needs. People in costumes or naked joining just for the exp. Bad enough people join and afk for the loss points. You guys cry about every time sink, but then complain not enough content.

so... hm.. not sure why this is an issue, really. even if people do this, they will always be on 'both sides', meaning you will still have a chance of either having good people on your team - or not. there will always be gear and skill difference. on both teams. they won't try to specifically queue with you.

not forgetting to mention that this game is prime example of more restrictions only meaning people will be more creative in their ways to fck people over. (nothing's stopping people from playing in costumes now, y'know)

[Rightchaus]

so... hm.. not sure why this is an issue, really. even if people do this, they will always be on 'both sides', meaning you will still have a chance of either having good people on your team - or not. there will always be gear and skill difference. on both teams. they won't try to specifically queue with you.

not forgetting to mention that this game is prime example of more restrictions only meaning people will be more creative in their ways to fck people over. (nothing's stopping people from playing in costumes now, y'know)

True, but no reason for people to enter pvp unless they want pvp. Giving exp would be incentive for people who normally wouldn't pvp to come for exp. No reason for people to enter pvp in costumes now, unless they want to troll.

[Sylve]

True, but no reason for people to enter pvp unless they want pvp. Giving exp would be incentive for people who normally wouldn't pvp to come for exp. No reason for people to enter pvp in costumes now, unless they want to troll.

You can put all the EXP you want on PVP, i still wont do it.


EXP as a bonus to the winning side gives incentive to win unlike other MMOs that give experience to the losing side as well. Giving exp to the losers would lead to afk exp farming to go with the afk Wolf Mark farming we have currently. Simple solution there though, you only get Marks if you participate to a certain extent (Damage done or healing). People can still fail on purpose, but they can't AFK for it.

We saw with FATE farmers an influx of 50s who barely knew how to do more than AoE everything in sight in a dungeon, people who wore level 20s gear into HMs and AK/WP. Giving XP to the losers would make the FATE farmers look good by comparison, since they at least playedtheir way to 50.

[Tupsi]

Hm...no. Progression via PvP is the last thing this game needs - It's a PvE based game. MMOs with a huge PvP focus, sure, but this game doesn't need PvP to become a central leveling mechanic.

[amnie]

Hm...no. Progression via PvP is the last thing this game needs - It's a PvE based game. MMOs with a huge PvP focus, sure, but this game doesn't need PvP to become a central leveling mechanic.

levelling isn't progression. there already is progression in PVP.

PVP in an MMORPG will not work if people don't get better. the getting better gear-wise (or level-wise) is the sole reason MMORPGs exist.

if you want PVP without getting better stuff from doing it, play a Shooter... (where you will arguably get 'better' PVP too)

not forgetting to mention, someone who already doesn't care about PVP won't magically start doing it just to level up. they will still hate it.

however, for someone who likes both PVE and PVP, a leveling alternative means they will be more inclined to leveling another class. another class they need to gear up. another class that keeps them in-game longer. and with that, they will be a paying costumer longer. business. it's a funny thing.

[Draco]

Hm...no. Progression via PvP is the last thing this game needs - It's a PvE based game. MMOs with a huge PvP focus, sure, but this game doesn't need PvP to become a central leveling mechanic.

Noone mentioned anything about PVP becoming a central leveling mechanic. Yes, this is a PVE based game, however, in adding PvP, they are trying to create more options for players. This being said, why not during the leveling process as well. If you do not want to level via PvP then don't. Noone is saying that you have to, or even that you should. However, since it is in the game, I should be able to level via PvP IF I CHOOSE TO. Since this is my monthly subscription being paid, it should not matter to you how I want to experience the game. Basically, whether there is exp rewards for PvP will not effect you one bit since you clearly do not want it, however, it would effect me, and others a great deal, since we do.

[Niroken]

Does that mean we can have PvP EXP in PvE too?

[amnie]

Does that mean we can have PvP EXP in PvE too?

huh? eh. the OP is about the base class. aka you do PVP on your bard which is lvl 39, meaning you're in the lvl 30 PVP braket.. you get 2000 xp at the end of a match. those 2000 xp get added to your archer. your archer reaches lvl 40 with that because you were missing 1300 xp to levle up... now you can do lvl 40 PVP with your bard.

[Draco]

Does that mean we can have PvP EXP in PvE too?

I am sorry, but I have no idea what you are saying.

[Niroken]

I am sorry, but I have no idea what you are saying.

From what I gather is you want PvE EXP for completing PvP.

I don't see why we can't gain PvP EXP for completing PvE in that case as well.