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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    First, how can you compare a TURN BASED RPG to a REAL TIME RPG (meaning that monster in IV isn't going to attack until all your characters have had a chance to input a command versus that monster in XIV is going to rape you regardless if you tell your character to attack or not)
    Oh they would do rape you if you didn't took action, some ff's had an option switchable from "wait" when they waited for you to take action to "something i don't remember the name now" where they attacked you almost all the time. But even without those two, it's still got the same good ol' feeling ^^
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    If anything I am now even more less interested in the game. The battle system improvements are something that is apart of moving in the right direction but heres the bottom line.

    Seems like that took way too long for the info we did get.
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    All in all Yoshi's Team is actually doing a great work. Everything re-doing from scratch because the initial way the game passed was bad.
    Yoshi is actually listening to the player base (well for the rest of it :O ) which is good. BUT if they listen too carefully, the players will build up the game and not the developers. Which would be really really disheartening. I'm afraid that the community will mutate to those WoW whiners on blizzard forums. I know I shouldn't be compare these 2 games...

    But the current player is also totally spoiled by FFXI it seems. Everyone wants that parts of FFXI are getting revamped and implemented into FFXIV (me too =X ). That wasn't SE's intention I'd bet XD

    Sooo we just gotta be patient and watch that video over and over until we get new infos
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    Seriously Why?

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    People need to relax and let them do their thing. This game wasn't ready, but the suits upstairs decided that the deadline still had to be meet and they pushed it out. That's what got us into this mess.

    Yoshi and this team have set the deadlines as being when the quality is right. I infinitely prefer that over simply pushing crap out to meet a specific date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
    People need to relax and let them do their thing. This game wasn't ready, but the suits upstairs decided that the deadline still had to be meet and they pushed it out. That's what got us into this mess.

    Yoshi and this team have set the deadlines as being when the quality is right. I infinitely prefer that over simply pushing crap out to meet a specific date.
    QFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
    People need to relax and let them do their thing. This game wasn't ready, but the suits upstairs decided that the deadline still had to be meet and they pushed it out. That's what got us into this mess.

    Yoshi and this team have set the deadlines as being when the quality is right. I infinitely prefer that over simply pushing crap out to meet a specific date.
    And this is the example set by id Software and Blizzard. A game isn't ready until it's ready. Most software developers haven't caught onto this fact. Hopefully, SE learns its lesson from this situation, as it's the path to releasing consistently high quality games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    And this is the example set by id Software and Blizzard. A game isn't ready until it's ready. Most software developers haven't caught onto this fact. Hopefully, SE learns its lesson from this situation, as it's the path to releasing consistently high quality games.
    The problem with Square Enix's management right now, though, is while the development times are crazy long, the teams are so horribly managed disconnected that they end up with bad quality regardless.

    They're experts at long dev times this generation. Now they gotta figure out how to be experts at making good games.
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    Mis-post sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
    People need to relax and let them do their thing. This game wasn't ready, but the suits upstairs decided that the deadline still had to be meet and they pushed it out. That's what got us into this mess.

    Yoshi and this team have set the deadlines as being when the quality is right. I infinitely prefer that over simply pushing crap out to meet a specific date.
    While I agree that it will be done when its done, as a current player, its hard to relax about when its done when they give false dates (or any dates at all) for when THEY think something will be done.

    Its funny, most of us have been saying for years (from back during ffxi even) that Se needs to have more PR and inform the players whats going on more, but now that they are, I kinda wish they would just shut up lol. I like being in the loop to an extent but, they are way better off saying such and such will be ready when its ready than saying ambiguous statements like "mid-june at the earliest". Whether we want it to or not people, that sort of thing creates a false expectation that leads to the kind of dissapointment that fuels this current thread.
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    Last edited by Biggs; 06-15-2011 at 06:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    While I agree that it will be done when its done, as a current player, its hard to relax about when its done when they give false dates (or any dates at all) for when THEY think something will be done.
    By this logic SE should just majorly piss all of us off and just say "It will be done when it's done. Peace out bitches"
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