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    Quote Originally Posted by Demacia View Post
    Except Skillchains were actually fun. Who was left out of skillchains in XI? White mages? Skillchains were necessary in endgame fights up until like 2008 when people started zerging everything. I think you're talking out of your ass when you say "I think people forget how useless SCs were", it's more like people remember how fun and effective they USED to be. BRs are dull. Being effective in a fight doesn't change that.
    the main argument i see about BR is that they are effective and everyone is involved... but fun... not really.
    oh wait, ive seen a post where someone said its fun BECAUSE it does good dmg and its effective... hmmm...
    as a whm i don't need to be part of a BR, i rather MB when i feel like with a light-based attack, which you could do in ffxi.
    Nobody was excluded. And BR spamming is the most dull and boring thing ever. No timing, no skill, just the same spam all over again, it feels like a macro called: kill mob; press kill mob button, mob dies...

    I just love to REACT on things goin on in a battle... Someone does a WS and i can react to it but don't have to. I can try timing AM to really do a ton of dmg at once etc. etc. but i have to time right. Skillchains in ffxi were even different in dmg depending on the timing you did. that is far superior then that current system.

    BR atm fits perfectly in a round based game where you press : "End turn" after finished ... but not in this game

    edit: i don't need an exact copy of ffxi skillchain system IF we get a proper and FUN and active system to use instead. but so far i rather have the good working ffxi system instead some skillchain copy (which BR is), which just took away all the mechanics making the ffxi-system fun to use.
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    Last edited by Anty; 06-18-2011 at 12:43 AM.

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    I was disappointed. It will have to work.. but the stamina gauge is one thing I really liked about this game, and the combat looks so much slower in my opinion =|
    If you notice, he only uses one move at a time. Does that mean that's what we are limited to now? If so, it ruins multiple counters as a Pugilist, which if landed, are useful as all hell.. and things of the like

    I don't know, not a huge fan of the whole auto attack change in the first place.. It'll grow on me because I have no choice, though. His slow attacking could have been the use of the gamepad though

    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    it feels like a macro called: kill mob; press kill mob button, mob dies...
    Whats that about Auto Attack? wolol
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    Last edited by Mudd; 06-18-2011 at 12:52 AM.

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    BR is something you do
    SC is something you do and want to do over and over.

    Its only rule is you join. No finesse at all among the least of its deficiencies. That also ends up being unbalanced because it has no rules. aka...dog-piling.

    It's like telling a group of dancers running from one end of the stage to another. Should they jump should they leap, should they twirl, should they synchronize, nope, nope and nope....just plain old running.
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    on the topic of BR, and well the game complaints ingeneral. You guys do realise your asking for a tedious game not a challenging one? Why can't stuff be fun to do with out hours of planing only for people not to listen?
    Why do you guys want a sc system like ffxi? They help cookie cutting happen. Since not everyone could sc with everything. With br any combo of attacks ws magic can be part of a combo and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Also notted people rarely do Sc anymore in ffxi they find it a waste of time and tedious to set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    on the topic of BR, and well the game complaints ingeneral. You guys do realise your asking for a tedious game not a challenging one? Why can't stuff be fun to do with out hours of planing only for people not to listen?
    Why do you guys want a sc system like ffxi? They help cookie cutting happen. Since not everyone could sc with everything. With br any combo of attacks ws magic can be part of a combo and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Also notted people rarely do Sc anymore in ffxi they find it a waste of time and tedious to set up.
    All i can say about this one is man w/e you are on it must be some gooood ish, you are completely delusional.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j52dZFJ_wOc&NR=1

    lol this one just for fun

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxBxK...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikyo View Post
    All i can say about this one is man w/e you are on it must be some gooood ish, you are completely delusional.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j52dZFJ_wOc&NR=1

    lol this one just for fun

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxBxK...eature=related
    your the delusional one. and also wrong about archers. Archer weapon is the bow not a dagger so it will not be the same as ffxi. They would have to change the class system so that archers used daggers. They are giving the battle classes AA not just the frontal melee. So mages and archer will have an AA. I'm just concerned on how it will effect archer.

    Also play ffxi now, the game is very different with a very different community then it started with. People do infact zerg alot, do not talk in groups and rarely do sc. I asked why and what I gave was everyones reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    your the delusional one. and also wrong about archers. Archer weapon is the bow not a dagger so it will not be the same as ffxi. They would have to change the class system so that archers used daggers. They are giving the battle classes AA not just the frontal melee. So mages and archer will have an AA. I'm just concerned on how it will effect archer.

    Also play ffxi now, the game is very different with a very different community then it started with. People do infact zerg alot, do not talk in groups and rarely do sc. I asked why and what I gave was everyones reply.
    Guy really every thread you are in you seem to be the one saying the most retarded shit and you are in a F-load of threads posting crap, rng in XI's main form of dmg was its ranged weapon duck I doubt anyone could argue that.

    Archer having a weak melee weapon like a dagger that is used when close wont make anyone with a brain cell think that they are a close quarters melee class, maybe just you alone would be patrick star enough to think this.

    SE wouldnt give Archer AA with a weapon strong enough to make the bow obsolete....... You have issues and i asked you to place me on ignor and damn it i thought i had you there as well ><, because you are annoying but have a starnge power that makes ppl have to reply to your stupid post, thus adding to you extreme post count thus granting you fame and fortune. =/
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    Last edited by Shikyo; 06-18-2011 at 01:34 PM.

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    I got a question for anyone. More of a realisation too. How will archer be played once AA is in effect? Unlike ffxi, bows are a main weapon not a sub weapon. Will they change archers AA to not consume arrows? I see this ending bad for archers as Arrows will get consumed more quicker and may run out on iccassion just before we use a attack skill. Same goes for the magic classes, how does AA effect them? Again I ask because in ffxi mages didn't go in attack mode they just stood and cast.

    Some stuff to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    I got a question for anyone. More of a realisation too. How will archer be played once AA is in effect? Unlike ffxi, bows are a main weapon not a sub weapon. Will they change archers AA to not consume arrows? I see this ending bad for archers as Arrows will get consumed more quicker and may run out on iccassion just before we use a attack skill. Same goes for the magic classes, how does AA effect them? Again I ask because in ffxi mages didn't go in attack mode they just stood and cast.

    Some stuff to consider.
    Archer will play as it did in xi in other words GREAT! you have complete control of what dmg you wanna do and when.
    Its perfect, why would any rng not wanna be able to control when they shoot?
    Close quarters=Melee with a nice dagger that may have some nice stats to boot!
    You shoot when you want, perfect.
    Thank goodness the like 3 ppl that lack to understand this dont matter. =P
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    Last edited by Shikyo; 06-19-2011 at 02:26 AM.

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    I think they should be working more on adding new quests and story aspects into the game than worrying about redoing the interface. Getting to an endgame should be one of their top priorities since the game's been out for so long and has had almost no progress on the story itself.
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