Just wanted to point this out...

[Ennvy]

I hate seeing a THM or a ARCHER tanking.. Like really. A archer tanking Great Buffalo? Cooommme on. Im really hoping for this "Skillful Play" will work out. or atleast gimp THM skills and make some people cry. XD

I want new content.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

well, i do see archers tanking, but only when they buff too much for a weapon skill XD otherwise i've never seen an archer tanking because they want to tank.
As thm myself instead, we can tank easly only dodore right now, firm convinction is been adjusted from a while. I don't see the problem tanking as a mage thou, with the right setup was possible in ffxi too. Rdm o blu tanking was possible and very fun too.
The real thing should be:
1)tanks should be obliusly the main choise, and with the new algorithms for enmity generation incoming the problem should be solved. for damage mitigation abilities we should be ok, maybe shield should stand up a little more (and adjust animation) or maybe even be automatic.
2)a mage could have tanking capability, sacrifing damage mitigation (aka a limited tank, maybe for weak adds) BUT it should't be an healer. Let's say, if SE will design cnj like a pure healer, it don't need tanking abilities.Else, if thm would end like a enfebleer/factotum like rdm, it could have some tanking abilities
3)Some hybrid dd/tank as marauder (or evasion tank like pugilist) still could have room BUT pure damage dealers like archer should be totally uncapable of tanking. Not saying they should be oneshotted at the first aoe, but they should' be allowed to tank anything serius

[Neptune]

I hate seeing a THM or a ARCHER tanking.. Like really. A archer tanking Great Buffalo? Cooommme on. Im really hoping for this "Skillful Play" will work out. or atleast gimp THM skills and make some people cry. XD

I want new content.

Why do you hate it so bad? Why do you care?

[Peregrine]

It is kindof sad. Archer's actually just as good a tank as marauder or pug. It's just that we all refuse to believe it because it sounds so utterly ridiculous, so no one designs their archers to take hits and the healers refuse to recognise archers getting hit as anything but an accident that's not their fault.

I've been saying this for months, people are only going to get more bold with thauma and archer as far as disproving what the other jobs' fanboys claim they can't do. Those two jobs are grossly imbalanced.

People who say the phrase "glass cannon" need to be backhanded. Archer's defensive capabilities are ridiculous to be honest. They actually can take a hit just as well as a pug, and their power mitigates a ton of damage because DEAD things stop ATTACKING.

As a 35 archer I could take down a R50 Qiqirn and Kobold and take less damage than on my 40 marauder.

[Ennvy]

Why do you hate it so bad? Why do you care?

Its just stupid. I feel bad for my GLD who wanna tank and see a archer tanking GREAT BUFFLO. Like I said in another post. "Hey send in the medic first, since he can patch himself" And I do care cause there no real fun in the game like that. You must care since you reply to the post.

[Evangela]

you don't wanna see Thaumaturge tank, but you want Goldsmith tank?

[Eekiki]

you don't wanna see Thaumaturge tank, but you want Goldsmith tank?

badum tsss

I agreed with this way back when Peregrine got flamed up and down for suggesting that ARC was overpowered, and something needed to happen to balance and distinguish classes from one another, lest the game become Archer Fantasy XIV (not that it hasn't already).

Sure I can tank and do damage with my PUG, but compared to an archer? Forget about it.

[Molly_Millions]

Its just stupid. I feel bad for my GLD who wanna tank and see a archer tanking GREAT BUFFLO. Like I said in another post. "Hey send in the medic first, since he can patch himself" And I do care cause there no real fun in the game like that. You must care since you reply to the post.

For the fight you're talking about we used an ARC because that is what we had in the group. I'm of the opinion that if it works, use it. Who cares if the strategy is used by everyone else on the server or not. If an arc can tank successfully, let them do it.

Let's say you're in a bar fight with a bigger dude, like really big.Would you only use your fists because that's what's fair? I wouldn't. I'm picking up anything that's not nailed down, because that's how I'll win. Same strategy here.

[Isaaru]

oh hey it's ANOTHER THM and ARC thread.

[Ennvy]

oh hey it's ANOTHER THM and ARC thread.

Oh hey. ANOTHER same comment.

Hasnt every post been duplicate alot already? If we had new stuff to talk about we would XD lol