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    Just a quick little chime-in/chime-out to address Doctaru Ravenbe's acute observation:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctaruRavenbe View Post
    So with folks doing the Kobold Daily quests we've learn some interesting things about those "Voidsent" we call bombs.
    Apparently Kobold Alchemists are quite adapt at crafting bombs and grenades. Hell they can even set them to be remote detonated with proper placing. This may mean that the bomb species may not be so unnatural to this world than we thought. Or it could be that the kobolds found a way to reverse engineer and grow bombs
    Here's some clarification:

    The kobold alchemists are not creating them in the sense of creating them from scratch, but more creating a new 'generation' of Eorzean-born bombs via the genetic manipulation and breeding of voidsent captured in the wild (the kicker being: those new bombs, while still classified as voidsent, were never actually "sent" from the void). Is a baby born in space of Earthling parents still considered an Earthling? Good question...


    Hope that helps clear up things a little!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Just a quick little chime-in/chime-out to address Doctaru Ravenbe's acute observation:



    Here's some clarification:

    The kobold alchemists are not creating them in the sense of creating them from scratch, but more creating a new 'generation' of Eorzean-born bombs via the genetic manipulation and breeding of voidsent captured in the wild (the kicker being: those new bombs, while still classified as voidsent, were never actually "sent" from the void). Is a baby born in space of Earthling parents still considered an Earthling? Good question...


    Hope that helps clear up things a little!
    Oh my. *blushes* I like this response
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctaruRavenbe View Post
    Oh my. *blushes* I like this response
    What should also be considered is the fact that this reproduction of bombs is not unique to kobolds - in fact, the first example we have of it actually predates the kobold beastmen dailies in the Cherry Bomb minion. However, it seems the processes are slightly different to what Ferne has suggested!
    Summons a miniature recreation of a voidsent bomb, created via the thaumaturgical rendering of umbrally charged aetherial energy. Guaranteed never to self-destruct, or your gil back. Use item to acquire the cherry bomb minion.
    Thaumaturgical rendered umbral charged aetherial energy seems like a magical, summoning type process rather than an alchemical, biological breeding program to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyan View Post
    Thaumaturgical rendered umbral charged aetherial energy seems like a magical, summoning type process rather than an alchemical, biological breeding program to me
    I think the answer there might lie in the "miniature recreation" part. Re-creations need not be the same as the original. The Battle of Gettysburg wasn't fought with blanks, model trains don't require coal, non-wind-up Aldgoats don't explode with chocobo down when slaughtered. If army men can be plastic, I'd imagine miniature bombs can be toys of aether and ash.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctaruRavenbe View Post
    Is the word "shkoh!" that appears whenever one speaks their breathing apparatus or an exclamation?
    I'd all but call it confirmed that they're breathing sounds. "Pshhhh" being the sound of air passing through the mask on the inhale, "Shkkohhhh" being the pressure of the exhale being enough to penetrate back through. You can hear the same sounds if you cover your mouth and nose with your hands and breath slowly.

    I've added all the new mob names to the chart, but a lot remain uncategorized. I haven't gotten much further with most of the issues in the thread, either, but I'll keep picking at it and hope there's still some lore in the mines. Maybe making a bulleted list of unknowns would help.

    I've also made it so that anyone can leave info they find as a comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I think the answer there might lie in the "miniature recreation" part. Re-creations need not be the same as the original. The Battle of Gettysburg wasn't fought with blanks, model trains don't require coal, non-wind-up Aldgoats don't explode with chocobo down when slaughtered. If army men can be plastic, I'd imagine miniature bombs can be toys of aether and ash.
    I can see your inference and it does make sense. My only issue with it is, the cherry bomb seems to fall into the category of "living" minions looking at its aesthetics and the way it acts, rather than a "toy" minion like the wind-ups. There is a big difference between the coeurl kitten and the wind-up aldgoat, or a chocobo chick and the wind-up Dalamud (and no, not just the name - there are some toy minions which do not have the wind-up label).

    What the kobolds do with taking a bombs and breeding them could also be recreations in a way - the advanced smart bombs behave in a very different way to the voidsent bombs of Eorzea. They are not the same as the originals, either.

    The kobold alchemists are not creating them in the sense of creating them from scratch, but more creating a new 'generation' of Eorzean-born bombs via the genetic manipulation and breeding of voidsent captured in the wild
    If they aren't "growing" them, what exactly does 789th Order Acolyte Ba Go do with the bomb cores he's collected (other than bathe and talk to them like his precious little daughters)?
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    Last edited by Kyan; 05-24-2014 at 07:41 AM.
    Yhan, the White Viper.