Raimdelle Reborn: The Neverending Bestiary

[RolandDebreton]

I just noticed this thread and I'm instantly interested in helping you make it happen.

First off I noted that in the notes you reference Fern Notes, Fern included Ixal, Kobold and Sylph which would have been the prevalent species at the time (08-09-2011), in the Spoken listings. I noted that you only had Kobolds in the chart. Are you waiting for more definitive genus/species info before adding the Ixal, Qiqirn, Sylph, Goblins, Amalj'aa, Mamool Ja, Dragonkin and possibly Moogles?

What do we do with Moogles and even more confusing Tonberry. In Vana'diel, Tonberry were classed as a beastmen tribe and were an ancient race of humanoids transformed into their beastly form, and my experience thus far with Tonberrys of Eorzea tells me its much the same situation. So are they to be classed as beast-tribes among the Spoken?

Vana'diel also found the Kindred being classed as beastmen as well, though they were of... suspect origins and (I'm fuzzy here remembering) were they not a creature of darkness brought to Vana'diel by Odin? Isn't this very comparable to the Kindred in this world, though voidsent they are humanoid and demonstrate intelligence.

[Anonymoose]

I just noticed this thread and I'm instantly interested in helping you make it happen.

This is good news!

I noted that you only had Kobolds in the chart. Are you waiting for more definitive genus/species info before adding the Ixal, Qiqirn, Sylph, Goblins, Amalj'aa, Mamool Ja, Dragonkin and possibly Moogles?

Some of them, yes. At this point, the chart is very basic - more focused on mapping the names of visual archetypes, which sometimes means we violate the rules of biological taxonomy. For instance, I currently have "Imperials" grouped as a species of Spoken simply because they all wear the same outfits and drop the same items. For a databank, that's more convenient than grouping imperial hyurs with poachet hyurs and pirate hyurs and cultist hyurs. In other cases...

What do we do with Moogles and even more confusing Tonberry. In Vana'diel, Tonberry were classed as a beastmen tribe and were an ancient race of humanoids transformed into their beastly form, and my experience thus far with Tonberrys of Eorzea tells me its much the same situation. So are they to be classed as beast-tribes among the Spoken?

I'm going to assume that Moogles and Tonberries are both going to end up spoken, but there's little proof. Now, I left FFXI when Abyssea was released, so I don't know if the origin of the Kindred was ever answered. When I played, they were assumed to be demons conjured from "the underworld" by the Shadow Lord; however, this demon leader was later revealed to have once been Galka, so I imagined that perhaps the demons were also once of the worldly races (perhaps Elvaan, given the proximity to San d'Oria). This would explain the rumor that their "shell" was once armor. Anyway, in FFXIV, they're conveniently umbrella'd up with everything Voidsent. The cultists plainly use the spell Void Call and they show up alongside the Vodoriga, Flayers, etc.

The only reason the chart hasn't been updated in a little bit is because I've been toying with different mediums. The chart isn't very user friendly for constant editing. I'm thinking of starting a Google Spreadsheet with my Gamer Escape e-mail address and allowing people to request editing privileges, though I'm still hoping someone who has the official information will just take pity and send it to me so we can wiki up and start reporting all the localization bugs

[Kyan]

start reporting all the localization bugs

...Behemoth? Pudding? Halp...? Hehe. Though they've been very supportive of correcting information as we've found it. Did they fix the Sylph classification with the last wave of leve text repairs?

[RolandDebreton]

Also, you mentioned liking the Territorial _____. Here are a couple of them.





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