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  1. #11
    Player
    Viridiana's Avatar
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    2011/03/09
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    Aria Placida
    World
    Lamia
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    忍者 Lv 88
    Quote 引用元:Niniyo 投稿を閲覧
    The Garleans, as far as I can see, aren't any race or species, but a nation. The members of the Garlean Empire are primarily Hyur, but others are there, in the case when their particular tribe/group/etc... had been conquered and they (the citizens who had been dominated) decided to join with them (the Garleans), likely for a chance at a better life.

    Here's the page on the Garlean Empire.
    Except that native Garleans have that whole third eye thing going on, which is a distinctly non-Hyur trait.
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  2. #12
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    Naraku_Diabolos's Avatar
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    2012/06/11
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    Gridania
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    Hayley Westenra
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    Excalibur
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    忍者 Lv 100
    Moose, I have a question. I thought there was going to be an in-game Bestiary when ARR released? I thought Fern said there was going to be one. We did get the Hunting Log, but are there still any plans of there being a bestiary?
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  3. #13
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    2011/03/08
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    剣術士 Lv 50
    Was bored at work. I'll get a list started.

    Adamantoise/Tortoise - Beastkin
    Aevis - Cloudkin (or Scalekin?)
    Ahriman - Voidsent
    Aldgoat - Beastkin
    Amalj'aa - Spoken (with Beastkin attributes)
    Antlion - ? (Vilekin?)
    Antelope - Beastkin
    Ahriman - Voidsent
    Apkallu - Wavekin
    Basilisk/Peiste - Scalekin
    Bat/Kalong - Cloudkin
    Beetle/Weevil - Vilekin
    Biast/Drake/Guivre - Scalekin
    Boar/Hog - Beastkin
    Bomb/Balloon/Grenade - Soulkin ?
    Bogy/Revenant - Voidsent (can be considered Ashkin as well, but usually appears with other Voidsent)
    Buffalo/Aurochs - Beastkin
    Buzzard/Condor/Vulture - Cloudkin
    Cactuar/Sabotender - Seedkin
    Chimera - ?
    Coblyn/Doblyn - Soulkin
    Cobra/Python - Scalekin
    Colibri - Cloudkin
    Coeurl - Beastkin
    Crab/Megalocrab - Wavekin
    Crocodile - Beastkin
    Deathgaze - Cloudkin
    Devilet/Imp - Voidsent
    Diremite/Banemite/Miteling - Vilekin (or Beastkin?)
    Djigga/Chigoe - Vilekin
    Dodo - Cloudkin
    Dragonfly - Cloudkin
    Dullahan - Soulkin (or Forgekin?)
    Elemental/Sprite - Ashkin or Soulkin?
    Eft/Salamander - Beastkin (or Wavekin?)
    Firefly/Wisp - Ashkin or Soulkin?
    Funguar/Toadstool - Seedkin
    Galago/Opo-Opo/Lemur - Beastkin
    Gargoyle/Vodoriga - Voidsent
    Gnat/Ked - Vilekin
    Goblin - Spoken (with Beastkin properties)
    Golem - Soulkin?
    Goobbue - Seedkin
    Hapalit/Ogre - Voidsent
    Hippogryph/Hippocerf - Beastkin (could technically be Cloudkin too)
    Hornet/Bee - Vilekin (or Cloudkin?)
    Ixal - Spoken (with Cloudkin properties)
    Ladybug - Vilekin
    Landtrap/Roselet - Seedkin
    Mamool Ja - Spoken (with Scalekin properties)
    Mandragora - Seedkin
    Mantis - Beastkin
    Marmot/Squirrel - Beastkin
    Microchu - Seedkin
    Mirrorknight - Beastkin (or Cloudkin?)
    Mole/Hedgemole/Shrew - Beastkin
    Morbol/Ochu - Seedkin ?
    Nix/Toad - Beastkin
    Padjal - Spoken (may be duplicate since they are originally Hyur)
    Pudding - Voidsent ? (was Amorph in previous FF games)
    Puk/Pteroc - Cloudkin
    Qiqirn - Spoken
    Raptor/Anole/Lindwurm - Scalekin
    Rat - Beastkin
    Sahagin - Spoken (with Wavekin attributes)
    Sheep/Lamb/Karakul - Beastkin
    Slug/Hare - Wavekin
    Skeleton - Ashkin
    Slime - Bloodless > ? (usually refered to as Amorph in other FF games)
    Spriggan - Soulkin
    Snurble/Phurble/Fleece - ? (Beastkin makes the most sense?)
    Swarm (Midge/Syrphid/Hornet) - Vilekin
    Sylph - Spoken (with Seedkin attributes)
    Taurus - Voidsent
    Tonberry - Spoken (independent "beastmen" race?)
    Treant/Dryad - Seedkin
    Uragnite - Wavekin
    Vanguard - Forgekin? (or Mechanical if it doesn't fit that category)
    Ziz/Pelican - Beastkin (even though it has Cloudkin properties)
    Zombie - Ashkin

    I probably missed some stuff, but this is mostly from hunt logs. I know I'm missing some dungeon-specific mobs. Some of the designations may be incorrect as well, but I kinda winged some of them based on past FF games.

    Also, as you're probably aware, there's tons of factions within the 5 Races, so I don't know if you want to try to document all of those or not. Rhotano Pirates, Corpse Brigade, etc etc...

    Edit: Found that old post from Ferne on the wiki, so updated some of my designations.
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    2013/12/31 06:45; Orophin が最後に編集

  4. #14
    Player
    Anonymoose's Avatar
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    2011/03/08
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Anony Moose
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    Excalibur
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    巴術士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:Orophin 投稿を閲覧
    Was bored at work.
    Sweet googly moogly. I think you do have most of those classes right - though differentiating which name is the genera and species is tough. The flavor text helps in some respects, but a lot of the taxonomical terms in there seem to have been thrown in kind of whimsically. Until recently Gigas were said to be cloudkin, which I think may have been a holdover from a quest that involved hippogryphs, which another quest refers to as cloudkin... this takes a lot of unraveling - but thanks for all these!

    I think fireflies are vilekin (insects) and wisps are unrelated voidsent (along with plasmoids). Long ago we noticed that they all share the names of some attacks and thought they might be related, so we asked, and got a really interesting answer from Fernehalwes.
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

  5. #15
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    Skyhound's Avatar
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    2013/09/24
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    Gridania
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    Skyhound Solbrave
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Viridiana 投稿を閲覧
    quote
    This is what I meant. Garleans have the third eye trait which Cid reveals that only pure blood Garleans have. It implies that they can cross breed(possibly the other races can as well), but they're not the same as the Hyur.
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  6. #16
    Player
    Kyan's Avatar
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    2011/07/15
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    Ul'dah
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    L'yhan Nunh
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    園芸師 Lv 92
    Dear Mr. Moose.

    On my quest to learn as much about the lands of Hydaelyn as Miqo'tely possible, I am very happy to contribute to what I can discover! You are right in that, sometimes F.A.T.E and flavour text creates some confusion in regards to classification of certain animals (though, I am so impressed that the Pudding and the team took the time to correct the errors which have been pointed out in the localisation forums! I encourage everyone to flag these errors in a polite way, to better this game for everyone!).

    What I would like to clarify though, is if this bestiary is for fightable monsters only (which seems more manageable to me), or, is it inclusive of things like hover worms (items) and animals with significant evidence provided in text/dialogue (which seems quite taxing...)?
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    Yhan, the White Viper.

  7. #17
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    Anonymoose's Avatar
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    2011/03/08
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Anony Moose
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    Excalibur
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    巴術士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:Kyan 投稿を閲覧
    On my quest to learn as much about the lands of Hydaelyn as Miqo'tely possible, I am very happy to contribute to what I can discover!
    That's the spirit!

    Quote 引用元:Kyan 投稿を閲覧
    What I would like to clarify though, is if this bestiary is for fightable monsters <snip>
    Just mobs (for now[?]). The game mechanics and lore work well together to flesh out a nice wiki bestiary and we've got a great deal of the infrastructure already done. Finding missing information and correcting errors is the only time consuming part left. Someday, I'd love to link mob actions to specific mobs, as well, but for now I'm just focusing on organizing taxonomy so lore, drops, and abilities start organizing themselves without much manual work.

    Even then, there will be slight discrepancies between actual biological taxonomy on Hydaelyn, the Eorzean biology upon which we build the bestiary, and the actual final bestiary used in the wiki. For instance, the Imperial "species" mentioned above that automatically groups all the Imperial mobs so their drops and locations and such are all nicely organized.
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    2014/01/02 17:15; Anonymoose が最後に編集
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

  8. #18
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    RickiFake02's Avatar
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    2013/08/23
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    Gridania
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    Tarii'to Shiruba
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:Skyhound 投稿を閲覧
    This is what I meant. Garleans have the third eye trait which Cid reveals that only pure blood Garleans have. It implies that they can cross breed(possibly the other races can as well), but they're not the same as the Hyur.
    I think this would make them a separate tribe of Hyur, ie Midlander/Highlander/Garlean, rather than making them a new race. They appear to be Hyuran in every other aspect.
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  9. #19
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    Anonymoose's Avatar
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    2011/03/08
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Anony Moose
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    Excalibur
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    巴術士 Lv 100
    Small update on this, 2.1 has been exceedingly handy with identifying the species/genus names due to Treasure Hunt, as "Alpha X" and "Territorial Y" tend to refer not to specific mobs, but the divisions they come from. Quick mid-battle screenshots of mob models with their names might end up helpful. That said, it's not always perfect. Territorial Roselet, for instance, doesn't match Red Landtrap Leaf's item description that the red landtraps are called Roselings.

    <bensteinvoice> Craziness. Pure. Craziness.</bensteinvoice>
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    2014/01/06 18:26; Anonymoose が最後に編集

  10. #20
    Player
    Kyan's Avatar
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    2011/07/15
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    Ul'dah
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    L'yhan Nunh
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    Sophia
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    園芸師 Lv 92
    Quote 引用元:Anonymoose 投稿を閲覧
    Territorial Roselet, for instance, doesn't match Red Landtrap's item description that the red landtraps are called Roselings.
    Roselete is the term used in botanist leves such as "The Heart of the Hedge" level 10. If that helps...
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    Yhan, the White Viper.

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