Raimdelle Reborn: The Neverending Bestiary

[Anonymoose]

I'm mostly wondering where the Garleans will go. Since they wouldn't be either if you use the games context.

As far as my chart is concerned, biologically? With the rest of the Five Races. As far as the Wiki is concerned? An exception. It's much more economical to have them as a "species" of Spoken. If you check this page, you'll notice that it nicely groups them by their cohorts and common drops. If you do them member-by-member, role-by-role, they just end up peppered into every category and it's not very useful.

Using it this way, I was, for instance, able to see that the 1st Cohort defends the Praetorium, the 2nd Castrum Occidens, the 3rd Casturm Oriens, the 4th Cape Westwind (and possibly Castrum Marinum), the 5th Castrum Centri, and the 8th Castrum Meridianum. The 6th, 9th, and 10th are unaccounted for - possibly in Ala Mhigan territory, whereas the 7th ends up wherever the Triarii go.

Will probably end up doing the same for the Lambs of Dalamud, certain pirates and poachers, etc... but right now even the Imperials are an experiment. It does seem like we can emulate the mobs Genus > Species by having Enemy Humanoids by group; the game mechanics sure work in its favor -- but it's all a work in progress, lol.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Moose, I have a question. I thought there was going to be an in-game Bestiary when ARR released? I thought Fern said there was going to be one. We did get the Hunting Log, but are there still any plans of there being a bestiary?

[Orophin]

Was bored at work. I'll get a list started.

Adamantoise/Tortoise - Beastkin
Aevis - Cloudkin (or Scalekin?)
Ahriman - Voidsent
Aldgoat - Beastkin
Amalj'aa - Spoken (with Beastkin attributes)
Antlion - ? (Vilekin?)
Antelope - Beastkin
Ahriman - Voidsent
Apkallu - Wavekin
Basilisk/Peiste - Scalekin
Bat/Kalong - Cloudkin
Beetle/Weevil - Vilekin
Biast/Drake/Guivre - Scalekin
Boar/Hog - Beastkin
Bomb/Balloon/Grenade - Soulkin ?
Bogy/Revenant - Voidsent (can be considered Ashkin as well, but usually appears with other Voidsent)
Buffalo/Aurochs - Beastkin
Buzzard/Condor/Vulture - Cloudkin
Cactuar/Sabotender - Seedkin
Chimera - ?
Coblyn/Doblyn - Soulkin
Cobra/Python - Scalekin
Colibri - Cloudkin
Coeurl - Beastkin
Crab/Megalocrab - Wavekin
Crocodile - Beastkin
Deathgaze - Cloudkin
Devilet/Imp - Voidsent
Diremite/Banemite/Miteling - Vilekin (or Beastkin?)
Djigga/Chigoe - Vilekin
Dodo - Cloudkin
Dragonfly - Cloudkin
Dullahan - Soulkin (or Forgekin?)
Elemental/Sprite - Ashkin or Soulkin?
Eft/Salamander - Beastkin (or Wavekin?)
Firefly/Wisp - Ashkin or Soulkin?
Funguar/Toadstool - Seedkin
Galago/Opo-Opo/Lemur - Beastkin
Gargoyle/Vodoriga - Voidsent
Gnat/Ked - Vilekin
Goblin - Spoken (with Beastkin properties)
Golem - Soulkin?
Goobbue - Seedkin
Hapalit/Ogre - Voidsent
Hippogryph/Hippocerf - Beastkin (could technically be Cloudkin too)
Hornet/Bee - Vilekin (or Cloudkin?)
Ixal - Spoken (with Cloudkin properties)
Ladybug - Vilekin
Landtrap/Roselet - Seedkin
Mamool Ja - Spoken (with Scalekin properties)
Mandragora - Seedkin
Mantis - Beastkin
Marmot/Squirrel - Beastkin
Microchu - Seedkin
Mirrorknight - Beastkin (or Cloudkin?)
Mole/Hedgemole/Shrew - Beastkin
Morbol/Ochu - Seedkin ?
Nix/Toad - Beastkin
Padjal - Spoken (may be duplicate since they are originally Hyur)
Pudding - Voidsent ? (was Amorph in previous FF games)
Puk/Pteroc - Cloudkin
Qiqirn - Spoken
Raptor/Anole/Lindwurm - Scalekin
Rat - Beastkin
Sahagin - Spoken (with Wavekin attributes)
Sheep/Lamb/Karakul - Beastkin
Slug/Hare - Wavekin
Skeleton - Ashkin
Slime - Bloodless > ? (usually refered to as Amorph in other FF games)
Spriggan - Soulkin
Snurble/Phurble/Fleece - ? (Beastkin makes the most sense?)
Swarm (Midge/Syrphid/Hornet) - Vilekin
Sylph - Spoken (with Seedkin attributes)
Taurus - Voidsent
Tonberry - Spoken (independent "beastmen" race?)
Treant/Dryad - Seedkin
Uragnite - Wavekin
Vanguard - Forgekin? (or Mechanical if it doesn't fit that category)
Ziz/Pelican - Beastkin (even though it has Cloudkin properties)
Zombie - Ashkin

I probably missed some stuff, but this is mostly from hunt logs. I know I'm missing some dungeon-specific mobs. Some of the designations may be incorrect as well, but I kinda winged some of them based on past FF games.

Also, as you're probably aware, there's tons of factions within the 5 Races, so I don't know if you want to try to document all of those or not. Rhotano Pirates, Corpse Brigade, etc etc...

Edit: Found that old post from Ferne on the wiki, so updated some of my designations.

[Anonymoose]

Was bored at work.

Sweet googly moogly. I think you do have most of those classes right - though differentiating which name is the genera and species is tough. The flavor text helps in some respects, but a lot of the taxonomical terms in there seem to have been thrown in kind of whimsically. Until recently Gigas were said to be cloudkin, which I think may have been a holdover from a quest that involved hippogryphs, which another quest refers to as cloudkin... this takes a lot of unraveling - but thanks for all these!

I think fireflies are vilekin (insects) and wisps are unrelated voidsent (along with plasmoids). Long ago we noticed that they all share the names of some attacks and thought they might be related, so we asked, and got a really interesting answer from Fernehalwes.

[Wolfandre]

Bomb/Balloon/Grenade - Soulkin ?

Made my way through the level 30 Lancer quest where you have to defeat Balloons for their fingers. The Key Item description names bombs as Voidsent, though I'm unsure if the game names them as anything else in another location. Took a screenshot if anyone needs me to upload it.

[Anonymoose]

The Key Item description names bombs as Voidsent

Bombs have definitely been named voidsent enough times for me to not question it. That's another one I've been meaning to get on the chart, seeing as the item descriptions for Version 1.0's "Bomb Arm" and "Grenade Arm" made it pretty clear that bomb/grenade were the species we had so far. Also, though grenade ash exists, bomb ash drops from some lower level grenades, implying the genus name, as well. Except, according to FFXIVMODELS, there's a green one... it's always the green ones that need tracking down >.>

[Skyhound]

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This is what I meant. Garleans have the third eye trait which Cid reveals that only pure blood Garleans have. It implies that they can cross breed(possibly the other races can as well), but they're not the same as the Hyur.

[RickiFake02]

This is what I meant. Garleans have the third eye trait which Cid reveals that only pure blood Garleans have. It implies that they can cross breed(possibly the other races can as well), but they're not the same as the Hyur.

I think this would make them a separate tribe of Hyur, ie Midlander/Highlander/Garlean, rather than making them a new race. They appear to be Hyuran in every other aspect.

[Kyan]

Dear Mr. Moose.

On my quest to learn as much about the lands of Hydaelyn as Miqo'tely possible, I am very happy to contribute to what I can discover! You are right in that, sometimes F.A.T.E and flavour text creates some confusion in regards to classification of certain animals (though, I am so impressed that the Pudding and the team took the time to correct the errors which have been pointed out in the localisation forums! I encourage everyone to flag these errors in a polite way, to better this game for everyone!).

What I would like to clarify though, is if this bestiary is for fightable monsters only (which seems more manageable to me), or, is it inclusive of things like hover worms (items) and animals with significant evidence provided in text/dialogue (which seems quite taxing...)?

[Anonymoose]

On my quest to learn as much about the lands of Hydaelyn as Miqo'tely possible, I am very happy to contribute to what I can discover!

That's the spirit!

What I would like to clarify though, is if this bestiary is for fightable monsters <snip>

Just mobs (for now[?]). The game mechanics and lore work well together to flesh out a nice wiki bestiary and we've got a great deal of the infrastructure already done. Finding missing information and correcting errors is the only time consuming part left. Someday, I'd love to link mob actions to specific mobs, as well, but for now I'm just focusing on organizing taxonomy so lore, drops, and abilities start organizing themselves without much manual work.

Even then, there will be slight discrepancies between actual biological taxonomy on Hydaelyn, the Eorzean biology upon which we build the bestiary, and the actual final bestiary used in the wiki. For instance, the Imperial "species" mentioned above that automatically groups all the Imperial mobs so their drops and locations and such are all nicely organized.