Housing Ideas and Feature Requests

[Endeleon]

So...screw everyone who has a small house I guess?

Yep, that's exactly what I said. Completely. Congrats on your reading comprehension.

[TheForce]

Yep, that's exactly what I said. Completely. Congrats on your reading comprehension.

That was kind of rude, but aside from that, you clearly said that you wanted all the S houses to be gotten rid of. I'm inferring here, because you weren't too clear about what you said next, but I'm assuming your intention is for all of the previous S house owners to be given M or L houses? I won't speak for everybody, but I personally don't want a mansion; S is the perfect size for me, and I'd rather not lose mine. I guess someone like me would just be crap out of luck eh?
The house system is okay as is, I wouldn't mind seeing apartments get beefed up a little, but that's where it should end.

[Jojoya]

Yep, that's exactly what I said. Completely. Congrats on your reading comprehension.

So then why do you want to screw over all the players that like their small houses and don't want a medium or large?

Just because you don't want a small doesn't mean that no player does.

[Vespar]

Can we get some of these:
1. Ability to Convert a private house to an FC house
2. Receive the 80% reimbursement cost of the land back on all housing relinquishes, regardless of whether the home was auto-demolished or willfully relinquished.
3. Ability to Sell plots to another player via the Home's placard some kind of Real Estate agent NPC for the original cost of the plot because sometimes you just wanna sell to your friend or something.
4. The ability to transfer or access your house on all the characters on your account, because it would be so awesome to be able to do that instead of having to buy each one their own home, or not have one at all.

In regards to bullet point #2.... Why do we only get reimbursed 80% if the house gets auto-demolished. Housing is a hot commodity and its very unfair that a player who is willfully relinquishing theirs so someone else can have the plot doesn't get a single gil back for it, but someone who hasn't played for 45 days or just hasn't walked into their house for 45 days does?
Now I am forced to sit here for 45 days holding a plot that someone else could be enjoying, because I want my reimbursed cost back so I can hopefully use it in the future on my alt that I now I play more than my original character.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

Can we get some of these:
1. Ability to Convert a private house to an FC house
2. Receive the 80% reimbursement cost of the land back on all housing relinquishes, regardless of whether the home was auto-demolished or willfully relinquished.
3. Ability to Sell plots to another player via the Home's placard some kind of Real Estate agent NPC for the original cost of the plot because sometimes you just wanna sell to your friend or something.
4. The ability to transfer or access your house on all the characters on your account, because it would be so awesome to be able to do that instead of having to buy each one their own home, or not have one at all.

In regards to bullet point #2.... Why do we only get reimbursed 80% if the house gets auto-demolished. Housing is a hot commodity and its very unfair that a player who is willfully relinquishing theirs so someone else can have the plot doesn't get a single gil back for it, but someone who hasn't played for 45 days or just hasn't walked into their house for 45 days does?
Now I am forced to sit here for 45 days holding a plot that someone else could be enjoying, because I want my reimbursed cost back so I can hopefully use it in the future on my alt that I now I play more than my original character.

#3 is never going to happen, it would just help house flippers. They'd just come to an agreement, pay the price difference between the plot and the asking price outside of the game process, and then pay for the plot.
#4 I have no reason why you can't do this. Once they limited individuals to one house per account, you think this would have went with it hand in hand. There a bug a while back that let you befriend atls. I feel bad for homeowners that didn't get in on that.

As for the reimbursement. I'm sure like most other things they decided it goes back in one way or another to trying to stop house flipping.

[ERMITANYO]

Upgraded outdoor sorrounding aesthetics for the housing districts, e.g. more ornamental trees, flowers, sculprures, things of that nature.

New unique housing exterior skins that are not beast tribe inspired.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Blank partition doors. Blank Oasis/Glade/Riviera/Hingan partition doors. Hanging mirror (for walls--doesn't even have to reflect, just be a silvery reflective surface). Retainer bell toggle, so we can put our actual retainer out instead of the bell. Fancy stairs for loft. Fancy railing for loft. Toggle for lofts to be treated like flooring. Individual candlesticks with light color options. Doze option for couches. An actual toilet (so we can stop using the Alpine chair). The ability to put actual lalafel NPCs on the lalafelin stool. The option to put posters IN FRAMES WHY IS THIS NOT A THING?! Koi ponds. Ice patches (that you slide on when walking).

And many more when I think of them.

[Nalien]

All those paintings and furniture in the Grand Cosmos? Yeah... You've got to add those as furniture now...

[GojuSuzi]

Many people complain that their FC can't get a larger home on the basis that they have too many members for the floorspace afforded by a smaller house, and/or the item limit hinders decoration when accounting for specialised 'zones' (crafting boost items for new crafters, kitchen areas with a variety of laid out meals, etc.). The solution many find is to sacrifice the private chambers of some members to make additional communal areas, and/or making alts just to join the FC, buy a room, and 'hold' it to serve the same purpose.

With up to 512 private rooms, unless it's an excessively large FC, that's a lot of rooms unused that could be. However, under the current system, to take even partial advantage of that, you either need to have a lot of placeholder alts between you, or recruit a lot of people you have no intention of playing with on the condition that they sacrifice their rooms.

Ideally, unclaimed private chambers could be unlocked by members who already have a private chamber of their own, to be used as FC rooms. Similar to purchasing a housing plot, where you designate purchase as an individual or for FC, when the member goes to buy the private chamber, they can opt to buy for personal use (same as current system, limited to one per character per house they're a tenant of) or buy for FC (limit to one or two per person, or some other reasonable limit).


Purchase private chamber for FC would require the same rights as purchasing a plot for FC, so the leader can limit it to themselves, or just officers, to prevent the place running out of rooms for new members if it's a large FC and every member does it.

Rooms purchased as FC rooms would bear the same ownership rights as the main estate, eg moving/removing decoration within the room requires FC rights to do this for the estate, access rights default to FC Only and can be toggled between that an Public but never locked to any individual. However, they are 'maintained' by the purchasing individual, and so would be destroyed upon that individual leaving the FC or deleting their character (hence restricting rights to purchase to trustworthy individuals).

However, these rooms would also retain the features of private chambers, such as the restriction against placing aether wheel stands, separate item count from the main estate, etc. So they don't need new coding on the function other than the different access settings.


This would give a lot more space to FCs to utilise, mitigating the need (real or perceived) to upgrade to a larger plot just to get more space. It would also take away the expectation that the Leader and possibly Officers are subject to now, that they sacrifice their own room for an additional FC room. Furthermore, it would allow for thematic/RP options, where the estate can be open to the public, but certain chambers can be locked to non-members, eg an FC office room or treasure vault.


This may increase server load, as I presume the majority of FCs don't come anywhere close to the 512 limit as it stands currently. However, I would presume that this limit was set with the expectation that it may be utilised, and so it shouldn't place more strain than what was originally anticipated. And it would certainly be less stressful than finding a way to add more large/medium plots to wards, or increasing the item limits significantly on plots (both things that have been heavily requested, with a large portion of the supporters of each idea doing so due to the limitation of the size of an FC house and the lack of expandability within it as needs grow).

[Kytrin]

Now that we have our contest winners announced, and holy TWELVE did those guys deliver, I would like to respectfully ask for the following to complement some of what I saw from the winners:

Kitchen Cabinets - Both upper and lower complete with non-wood counter tops (granite comes to mind).

A Refrigerator - An actual, full sized, refrigerator of some variety. The closest we have is the tiny thing on the steppe kitchen, and that's not enough for a modern kitchen.

A Kitchen Sink - Ideally would have water in it, but at the very least make it something the size of the roast dodo platter with some actual depth, a drain, and a proper kitchen faucet. The washbasin is simply too small.

Doors - Please for the love of the twelve give me more doors! If you don't want to build them into existing partitions that's fine! Just give me the doors and frames themselves so that when I slap one on a partition it functions. I am tired of oriental/paper partitions, and it's not possible to use the other doors without using the default wallpaper or giving yourself a migraine trying to cover everything.

A Kitchen Island - I mean an actual kitchen island that matches the cabinets above. It's about as high as the bar, and kitted out with drawers, a wine rack, a built in towel holder, butcher's block, etc. Stools optional.

That's it for now. The other features I want (moveable windows, expanded item slots, removable pillars...) have been asked for ad nauseum so I won't beat that dead horse more than I already have lol.