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    I can tell you that coming from FFXI with the PS2 and PC versions, Square-Enix believes firmly in equality and everything being even. So if there are any differences, it'll likely be subtle, but don't expect a drastically different UI for PC giving any one platform an edge over another makes for an unfair balance.

    With that said, the menu system does need to be overhauled. While somewhat fixed, it's still VERY slow, and unnecessarily complicated. The on-screen hud looks perfectly fine. there's room for improvement so I can't say it's perfect, but it's been a highlight being able to custom make the way my main screen looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    I can tell you that coming from FFXI with the PS2 and PC versions, Square-Enix believes firmly in equality and everything being even. So if there are any differences, it'll likely be subtle, but don't expect a drastically different UI for PC giving any one platform an edge over another makes for an unfair balance.
    Tanaka, of all people, admitted there should have been dual UI's. And that the reason it didn't happen wasn't due to limitations or balance, but simply time constraints:

    As Tanaka put it, many of the issues boiled down to the team's inexperience with catering to the PC audience ahead of the console market. "FFXI started on the PlayStation 2 and then got released on the PC half a year later, which was a pretty smooth process," he said, "but we're going the opposite way and starting with the PC this time, which created new problems. We placed too much emphasis on making the game compatible with console controllers, so it's just not suited well for mouse control -- that was a huge issue with PC gamers. There really needed to be two different control schemes for console and PC, since both users interfaces work so differently from each other, but our development team didn't get around to that. Fixing this is one of the top priorities we'll be dealing with."
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    I could have sworn Yoshi-P also mentioned this may be in the list of future plans, but I'm still combing through interviews and old Producer Letters trying to find it.

    Regardless, I know that Yoshi-P said they plan to deliver on the promises made by the previous dev team (and Tanaka said that fixing this issue was one of their top priorities). So I'm not giving up on seeing this come to fruition.
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    Last edited by Rowyne; 06-14-2011 at 11:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibian View Post
    [*]A comprehensive command list and right click menu needs to be implemented. Ie: /invite /kick /browse /lsinvite /lskick /trade etc.
    Yes, right-click functionality is sorely missing.

    I made a few visual mockups (with epic boobage in the chat log thread) of proposed right-click interface improvements in these two threads:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-Improvements

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ockup-Included


    Direct links to the samples:

    http://i.imgur.com/nsApD.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/O29Mr.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Yes, right-click functionality is sorely missing.

    I made a few visual mockups (with epic boobage in the chat log thread) of proposed right-click interface improvements in these two threads:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-Improvements

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ockup-Included


    Direct links to the samples:

    http://i.imgur.com/nsApD.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/O29Mr.jpg
    A rough example but it does its job. Right-click commands could make this game about 50x better in the current state. If anything they at least need to address remaking the UI or parts of it each patch.
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    I'm so sick of people wanting more PC user tweaks when the GAME CANNOT BE PLAYED COMPLETELY ON A CONTROLLER YET!

    I'm literally hoarse trying to explain how the game is BROKEN for controller users at the moment. And no not "broken" in the sense it's bad but actually broken in a way that many of the key features can not, I repeat CAN NOT be accessed via controller.

    I'm not saying the mouse controls don't need work but at least you can access all the menus currently.
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    ps3 usb port = mouse and keyboard in ps3 signature series collector FFXIV box ! That a solution !

    (is the most simple and fastest )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    I'm so sick of people wanting more PC user tweaks when the GAME CANNOT BE PLAYED COMPLETELY ON A CONTROLLER YET!

    I'm literally hoarse trying to explain how the game is BROKEN for controller users at the moment. And no not "broken" in the sense it's bad but actually broken in a way that many of the key features can not, I repeat CAN NOT be accessed via controller.

    I'm not saying the mouse controls don't need work but at least you can access all the menus currently.
    Just another reason PS3 and PC UI development should be separated. Furthermore, PS3 development is on hold indefinitely right now. Why develop for a controller if nobody is using it? Clearly you are using it, but I really have no idea why considering a keyboard and mouse give you more options.
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    but if PS3 user need to talk to other, they will need a keyboard for speak no?
    they speak with the controller ?
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    Last edited by Evangelus; 06-14-2011 at 03:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    I'm so sick of people wanting more PC user tweaks when the GAME CANNOT BE PLAYED COMPLETELY ON A CONTROLLER YET!

    I'm literally hoarse trying to explain how the game is BROKEN for controller users at the moment. And no not "broken" in the sense it's bad but actually broken in a way that many of the key features can not, I repeat CAN NOT be accessed via controller.

    I'm not saying the mouse controls don't need work but at least you can access all the menus currently.
    Wait. Like what? I've been using the controller this entire time. What have I been missing?!
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    UI fixes should be something that are worked on while they fix the other shit. Overhauling the UI is no rocket science. Just change it and make it client based!
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