Why is "Duty Roulette" a solo feature?

[ispano]

Pretty sure my group of two looking to fill a tank and dps slots helps two people (including a poor dps) very much. That group of three that needs one last dps, or a tank, or a healer? Yup, helping someone.

Actually that group of 3 would never see you, they already have 3, it won't even consider your group of two.

[Naunet]

Actually that group of 3 would never see you, they already have 3, it won't even consider your group of two.

You misunderstood my statements, which were meant to be taken separately. The group of 3 helps a solo individual, and the group of two helps two individuals.

you just can't use the Duty Roulette (for obvious reasons, it's meant to fill up a party having trouble finding that last member).

So my party looking to fill two spots doesn't count as a group "having trouble finding that last member"? I'm pretty sure we could make much use of solo queuers.

[ispano]

You misunderstood my statements, which were meant to be taken separately. The group of 3 helps a solo individual, and the group of two helps two individuals.

And a Solo player helps ANY group missing that one role, without being restricted by having 1 or more others with them. I did not misunderstand.

[Tyrial]

I don't enjoy playing this game alone. The social aspect is the bulk of what distinguishes an MMORPG from a regular ol' RPG. I should be able to queue roulette with my fiance.

So don't play the game alone. Nothing is stopping you from entering a queue with your fiance, you just can't use the Duty Roulette (for obvious reasons, it's meant to fill up a party having trouble finding that last member). If a couple hundred additional seals, 10/40 Myth and/or some Philos are that big of a deal then there are other issues.

Not to mention the fact that a premade party of friends who normally play together will demolish most instances much faster than your average DF PUG. Again, I don't see what the big fuss is over the DR.

[RowanLauron]

Encourages people to use the duty finder more. Like a previous poster said, it also puts higher level players into lower dungeons with newer people to help them clear content. I personally like it. The daily rewards are pretty nice

Also, it may just be me, but have you noticed the shorter que times for dungeons? That helps with it as well along with the exp boost. I rarely see people fate grind anymore /cheer

[Eidolon]

To be fair, que'ing as a group that knows they can clear content, and is geared for it, would be faster EXP than Douty Roulette (unless you get one of those crazy Ifrit runs that you can clear in <5minutes. I swear I wish I could get -only that- as my roulette at times.)

Ninja-edit: I typed Titan instead of Ifrit. Derp.

[amnie]

again, you aren't punished, you are awarded if you do it with the roulette. big difference. and we explained to you why a group queuing would defeat the purpose.

at least you're freely admitting that you don't care about anything but gearing/gaining gil faster. it's a start.


ps: if I want to do something with friends or FC mates I do just that. I only use the duty roulette if I really feel like doing it. comparing it's really not that much faster to duty roulette, anyway (people have already done the calculations. just do some digging)

I wonder if we will ever see something on this forum where people .won't. complain that something isn't fast enough (probably done by the same people who complain 'end game' is so boring... *snort*)

[amnie]

I don't even get the 'solo gaming' part to begin with. not just in this topic, but all over this forum

last I checked the dungeons weren't solo. (whether or not you talk to people in the dungeons or not is entirely your problem. yes, I've met groups where I tried to chat people up and nobody reacted the entire run, but that was maybe 2 runs out of 50. I'm a chatterbox.)

[ispano]

I don't even get the 'solo gaming' part to begin with. not just in this topic, but all over this forum

last I checked the dungeons weren't solo. (whether or not you talk to people in the dungeons or not is entirely your problem. yes, I've met groups where I tried to chat people up and nobody reacted the entire run, but that was maybe 2 runs out of 50. I'm a chatterbox.)

While some people truly do prefer to play solo whenever possible, some others don't and actually do prefer groups, but at times cannot. DF is meant to be there so they can try and get something done. But the more people use partial or full premades, the more it removes people from the list of potentials to get a run done with. The Roulette is meant to alleviate that somewhat. Many people still just group up instead of use the Roulette, since they know their premade can do things faster.

not sure why you're quoting me for that.

"I don't even get the 'solo gaming" part to begin with" That's why

I really don't get why you guys are attacking me.
I asked for source from SE where they explain if what you are saying has a official declaration behind it.

And about the one who said I care about rewards more... I don't.
In this week I didn't gather a single Allagan Mythology, I'm still 0/450, EXACTLY because since this feature is out, I was unable to find my friends available for queues anymore.
I care about playing with friends A LOT MORE than rewards. And that's why I'm unhappy with this Duty Roulette.
I know you now will say something like "They are not so friend to you as you think, then.", but really, let's skip that.

In fact, I correct my initial statement, so we avoid further discussion on this.
I heard the opinions, I now would like JUST to know if there is some official statement.
If there isn't, nevermind.

Actually, that's not what I would have said. Also, you attacked others first to be fair.

You only get myth from the roulette TWICE a day at most. And it's only 10 from the low level and 40 from the high level. You get no extra bonus Myth than that.

The big issue here is that they have given something as an incentive to BREAK up premades from time to time. You want it to apply to groups, and in the future it might. But now, it does not. And you feel it's punishing you. It's not. Period.

[amnie]

While some people truly do prefer to play solo whenever possible, some others don't and actually do prefer groups, but at times cannot. DF is meant to be there so they can try and get something done. But the more people use partial or full premades, the more it removes people from the list of potentials to get a run done with. The Roulette is meant to alleviate that somewhat. Many people still just group up instead of use the Roulette, since they know their premade can do things faster.

not sure why you're quoting me for that.

edit: huh? that still makes no sense. with 'solo gaming' part I was obviously talking about the percieved 'argument' others are using that this is 'solo gaming'. dungeons are quite obviously NOT solo content.