Why is "Duty Roulette" a solo feature?

[Taekrys]

You queuing in a roulette as a group of 2-4 doesn't help these people at all.

"Not at all" is a preposterous concept.
I can't count how many players was happy having 2/4 or 3/4 already coordinated. We didn't rush, we didn't act snob or such. Never.
I know you had bad experiences with premade groups that rush around and such, but not all of them are like that. I met a lot of friendish and kind people already packed together, as well as solo players who were rushy, nervous and obnoxious.
I'm a healer, anyway, and I did many queue with one of my friend as a tank. So we had the Tank+Healer pack already set for any couple of DD. How was that bad to anyone?

[ispano]

"Not at all" is a preposterous concept.
I can't count how many players was happy having 2/4 or 3/4 already coordinated. We didn't rush, we didn't act snob or such. Never.
I know you had bad experiences with premade groups that rush around and such, but not all of them are like that. I met a lot of friendish and kind people already packed together, as well as solo players who were rushy, nervous and obnoxious.
I'm a healer, anyway, and I did many queue with one of my friend as a tank. So we had the Tank+Healer pack already set for any couple of DD. How was that bad to anyone?

Over your head much? I'm not talking about attitudes. I'm talking about since you're in a group you can't fill a SINGLE slot a group has been waiting for for a while. Because you're in a group and it can't match you to them, you took yourself out of queue effectively for any other group that doesn't fit what you're missing.

[Taekrys]

Ok, I get it, you solo players are happier for the shorter queues. I'm sure the maths they did on all this are good and the results are faster joinable istances.
And I suppose to solo players like yourself care less than zero, how a group of friends gets damaged from this, as long as you have to wait less.

Still, I read someone writing this move is to "COUNTER" players like us.
That sounds... Mean?
Like we were doing something wrong?
How can that be?

I mean, you've never met someone, in your online experience, whom you would like to play again with?
Isn't it like one of the purpose *IN LIFE* to find someone to hang out with and to be together from then and beyond?

How is, promoting the opposite of this (just to have shorter queues?), a nice thing?

Moreover, while I read a lot of your opinions, has any of you a source for this being the official reason?

[ispano]

Ok, I get it, you solo players are happier for the shorter queues. I'm sure the maths they did on all this are good and the results are faster joinable istances.
And I suppose to solo players like yourself care less than zero, how a Group of friends gets damaged from this, as long as you have to wait less.

Still, I read someone writing this move is to "COUNTER" players like us.
That sounds... Mean?
Like we were doing something wrong?
How can that be?

I mean, you never met someone, in your online experience, whom you would like to play again with?
Isn't it like one of the purpose *IN LIFE* to find someone to hang out with and to be together from then and beyond?

How is, promoting the opposite of this (just to have shorter queues?), a nice thing?

Moreover, while I read a lot of you opinions, has any of you a source for this being the official reason?

Solo player? You would get better responses if you didn't attack everyone trying to explain it to you. I never said I premade, solo or both. You made the assumption.

You do not get damaged. As someone in another thread said, it's an opportunity cost. You lose NOTHING by forming a premade, they took nothing away from you. You just feel that you should get the rewards they are handing out to try and get people to split up as well, which defeats the point of giving those rewards to people who are willing to go in solo.

So, again, you're not being forced to split up, you just think that it's a punishment when it's not, to give out rewards for doing so.

[amnie]

Taekrys, you DO realise you can still join a specific dungeon in a group, don't you? the duty roulette's SOLE PURPOSE was that people get a shorter queue. so OBVIOUSLY 'the solo players' (lol??) are the ones happy to benefit from this. it was .made.for.them.

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in fact, you benefit from this when you always queue in a party of 2. in the past you sometimes might be waiting for a pop because the dungeon you needed to do was only your group of 2 queuing and maybe a group of 3. now you will get an insta-pop because there will surely be 2 dps solo queueing in the duty roulette.

and yes, this .has. happened to me when I was on my whm and a friend of mine queuing with me was on a tank. no pop for 20min+ (which is long for tank/healers)

he was the one who needed the run. I eventually dropped. 10 seconds later he had a pop, so his being in a group actually .hindered. his progression.

[Tyrial]

How is, promoting the opposite of this (just to have shorter queues?), a nice thing?

Moreover, while I read a lot of your opinions, has any of you a source for this being the official reason?

There was an official explanation somewhere, but I honestly can't be bothered to go digging for it. All you need to do is look at the way the Duty Roulette is set up to see why it is the way it is. It has nothing to do with pre-made groups and such, all it is is incentive to get people to queue up solo to fill needed roles that other groups can't seem to fill. To make this an appealing thing to do they offer a reward (increased GC seals, Myth/Philos, Gil, etc).

Honestly not sure why it's such a big deal. Do your pre-made stuff when your friends are on, use DR when you're alone.

[Draco]

This is an MMO, and everything that can be experienced, should be able to be experienced in party. Other MMO's offer daily rewards for random dungeon que's and do not limit a player to a solo experience in order to do so.

[Skotie]

It's to counter people like you and your friends. When you queue as you do with your friends, you remove potential participants from normal DF queues. Get some people needing Sastasha together, but no tanks are queuing because they only go in as a group? That is what it's for. To get people OUT of the premades at least a little, to help populate DF groups. Because we know many of these people, not all, but many wouldn't do it without some sort of incentive.You queuing in a roulette as a group of 2-4 doesn't help these people at all.

Shouldn't the counter to everyone grouping up together so you have no one to do dungeons with be, I don't know, go out and make some cool helpful friends and be such yourself? You are playing an online game where everything is not able to be done solo. I thought duty roulette was designed to break up the tedium of rerunning the same dungeons over and over for tomes.

[Naunet]

You queuing in a roulette as a group of 2-4 doesn't help these people at all.

Pretty sure my group of two looking to fill a tank and dps slots helps two people (including a poor dps) very much. That group of three that needs one last dps, or a tank, or a healer? Yup, helping someone.

Honestly not sure why it's such a big deal. Do your pre-made stuff when your friends are on, use DR when you're alone.

I don't enjoy playing this game alone. The social aspect is the bulk of what distinguishes an MMORPG from a regular ol' RPG. I should be able to queue roulette with my fiance.