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    Chavo's Avatar
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    Chavo Romagosa
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    How is Summoner parsing?

    Hey there. Sorry for my bad english

    I have just reactived my account. I just wonder if summoner is doing ok as PVE dps or if is better to lvl up anoter dps class.

    I have been looking for this info in the forum but i haven´t found concrete information about this concern.

    Thanks for the info and merry chrismas and happy new year.
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    Hitome's Avatar
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    Hito Yu
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    Midgardsormr
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    SMNs are still fine. Most classes are actually fine at the moment with MNK, perhaps, pulling ahead in certain fights.
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    Darkstarz's Avatar
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    Pika Chu
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    SMNs are still fine. Most classes are actually fine at the moment with MNK, perhaps, pulling ahead in certain fights.
    By pulling ahead you mean to say 20-30% ahead on dps depending on the fight as they were overbuffed.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstarz View Post
    By pulling ahead you mean to say 20-30% ahead on dps depending on the fight as they were overbuffed.
    If the fight allows for extended uptime on the boss, Monks do awesome ... Now throw that OP MNK into a fight that has you constantly move away and forcing you to start the whole rotation from scratch.
    Or a fight that requires AoE (LOL)
    Or a fight that requires heavy burst.
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    According to a friend parsing garuda extreme the other day I did the most damage overall combining mine and Garuda-egi's damage. But parsers still just guess and do weird stuff to figure what our damage might be
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    Darkshneider Arcannus
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    People cried foul when they nerfed smn by removing thunder,but ya sure dont hear them saying a peep about their ninja buff.Summons affected by spellspeed now.Summon your garuda and go in some dummies.Pets got a pretty decent dps increase.i got aroundish 500 ss with my smn so im enjoing this alot
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    Zelia Sarrasin
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshneider View Post
    People cried foul when they nerfed smn by removing thunder,but ya sure dont hear them saying a peep about their ninja buff.Summons affected by spellspeed now.Summon your garuda and go in some dummies.Pets got a pretty decent dps increase.i got aroundish 500 ss with my smn so im enjoing this alot
    Finally off my 2-week forum ban(thanks Kalandros), but I wanted to comment on this because it's been said a few times.

    I don't know who started it, but this is false.

    Spell Speed always worked with Garuda, it's just that pet tooltips were not set up in a way that allowed us to visually see that.
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshneider View Post
    People cried foul when they nerfed smn by removing thunder,but ya sure dont hear them saying a peep about their ninja buff.Summons affected by spellspeed now.Summon your garuda and go in some dummies.Pets got a pretty decent dps increase.i got aroundish 500 ss with my smn so im enjoing this alot
    1. There was no buff
    2. One extra wind blade per 25 casts isn't that big a deal. Spellspeed still sucks

    @kevee I was wondering where you went.

    @Neon saving 2 aether for bane/fester when you can is great for gaols
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    Last edited by Madoka; 12-29-2013 at 07:21 AM.

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    Hiroradius's Avatar
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshneider View Post
    People cried foul when they nerfed smn by removing thunder,but ya sure dont hear them saying a peep about their ninja buff.Summons affected by spellspeed now.Summon your garuda and go in some dummies.Pets got a pretty decent dps increase.i got aroundish 500 ss with my smn so im enjoing this alot
    The sad part is, a lot of Summoners don't even realize our egi's have been adjusted. I've had many posts before talking about it and they keep telling me, "How is it a buff when they did nothing to the egi" Anyone who says that does NOT know their own class and how it works. OR they use obey all the time so the egi higher damage doesn't show.
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroradius View Post
    The sad part is, a lot of Summoners don't even realize our egi's have been adjusted. I've had many posts before talking about it and they keep telling me, "How is it a buff when they did nothing to the egi" Anyone who says that does NOT know their own class and how it works. OR they use obey all the time so the egi higher damage doesn't show.
    To add some more clarity since you seem to have missed Kevee's post, tooltips were updated to show the affect of spell speed and having your pet on Obey (Garuda) is still higher dps than letting them use all their abilities with the default Sic AI. The default attack is their most potent ability still.

    edit: Ifrit does more DPS on Sic since Crimson Cyclone functions as an oGCD skill unlike Garuda's skills. But it has Stun so it becomes an issue on certain fights.
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    Last edited by Kikosho; 12-31-2013 at 11:21 AM.

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