Conjurer: Swift Cast

[DxWings]

So I'm now beginning to lvl Conjurer as my 2nd class, and it really takes a lot longer compared to my first class, so all I want to know is, can White Mage/Conjurers do without major cross class abilities such as Swiftcast, Eye for an Eye, etc. ?
I really don't want to be bothered to lvl up another class to a certain lvl because its becoming really long just to lvl this one.
So is it necessary for say if I want to do repeated runs of Wanderer's Palace for example?

[Shuon]

I believr swiftcast offers so much utility it is almost 'necessary'.

[RyuDragnier]

Swiftcast is very useful for WHM to use, especially in the likely event somebody just died or is about to die in any kind of run. Swiftcast -> Revive will get them back on their feet almost instantly if dead, and Swiftcast -> Cure III is a very nice panic button combo for keeping the party alive in certain instances (Ultima HM anyone?). But just for WP, no, Swiftcast will not be necessary most of the time, though the 2nd boss may warrant it being used.

[Jyoeru]

I am a terrible WHM who can't be bothered to level another class to 26 just yet. I've been doing without swiftcast all the while, including through Titan HM and now Ultima HM.

Here's the way I see it: a good group will not need a rez. A swiftcast will give you one more Oh-NO button whether it be for healing, or as largely intended, for a rez. But with a 3m timer, I am not in any hurry to worry about it. Chances are, if your group needs 1 rez, they'll need a few more. Might as well learn how to rez regularly since you will likely be doing that most of the time anyway.

That isn't to say don't get swiftcast. Doing so is completely ridiculous since it's a free perk. But, as a WHM who is still tooooooo lazy to level another class to halfway just for one spell, and who has done Titan HM several times, all the new dungeons, and some of the other new content, don't fret about it just yet. You'll be fine as long as you know what you're doing with your class in general.

But, still, get it as soon as you can be bothered to grind out another class. Especially if you're going to PVP. It is pretty much mandatory for PVP.

[Calyanare]

But with a 3m timer, I am not in any hurry to worry about it.

Swiftcast has a 1 minute cooldown, and is useful for a lot of things besides Raise. Eye for an Eye is also a pretty useful skill to have--much better than most people seem to think it is. But I don't think you should feel like you need to rush to get all the extra skills. As long as you feel comfortable without them, don't worry too much about it. I leveled WHM as my first class, and ground out full Darklight before I bothered leveling THM or ACN (...and now I main SCH, go figure).

[YuiSasaki]

[...] But with a 3m timer, [...]

The timer on Swiftcast is 60sec...not 3min...

and

I believr swiftcast offers so much utility it is almost 'necessary'.

[Jyoeru]

The timer on Swiftcast is 60sec...not 3min...

and

I get it. Original tooltip I referenced said 180 seconds. 60 seconds is better, but I am still not all excited over swiftcast considering rez mechanics absolutely stink. Maybe as a cureII/III OH CRAP button, but even then, still not as glorious as it seems imho. If I were failing as a healer thus far, I'd rethink my opinion. To clarify: I am not saying it's not valuable, but I am saying it's not so glorious one should feel like they better have it or else.

This.
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If that were the case, they'd just give it to whms. Let's not start the min/maxing charade and just enjoy the game

I guess my own elitist counter would be avoiding death should be mandatory for all players--thus negating the absolute need for a swiftcast.

[Lyrinn]

Here's the way I see it: a good group will not need a rez. A swiftcast will give you one more Oh-NO button whether it be for healing, or as largely intended, for a rez. But with a 3m timer, I am not in any hurry to worry about it. Chances are, if your group needs 1 rez, they'll need a few more. Might as well learn how to rez regularly since you will likely be doing that most of the time anyway.

Ideally? Yes. In reality? Unless you form a static with people you know to be good, no. There may also be one time accidents due to a mistake or an uncontrollable event (lag spike) and it's always nice to be prepared for that.

Swiftcast can be combined with a number of spells besides res, like Cure II/III or Medica I/II, Holy, or Stoneskin. It's free and it's on a short cooldown. There's no reason not to get it.

Finally, trying to res with the full casting time is just asking for a wipe. You can assess the situation and the player and determine if they're worth the mana for the raise, but leaving someone down and reducing your DPS simply because you can't be bothered to spend a couple of days leveling is equally negligent on your part.

TL;DR - Do I think it's absolutely necessary to have swiftcast? No. Do I think you're beyond silly for not having it? Yes.

[PetiteMalFleur]

. But with a 3m timer

3 minutes? Are you sure?

I use swiftcast all the time. It can be coupled with any spell. Swiftcast + Holy for fast aoe damage and stun. Swiftcast + Medica 2 for aoe healing on the move. Even a Swiftcast + Cure 2 for when you need to top someone off and benediction is down or you want to save it. Shit happens and people die. It's not like you're leveling the character more than once and I have yet to meet a healer who doesn't utilize swiftcast multiple times in every situation.

Bottom line is swiftcast can save the party a wipe. Therefore it is necessary to get.

[DxWings]

Alright thanks for the swift answers guys! Guess I'll try to see how I do without Swiftcast first, if I really feel like I need it after a couple of runs, I'll mostly likely force myself to get it.