Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Miiu]

Can we please stop using DF as a valid source of clearing fights that need coordination? Yes parties happen in Duty finder where you clear those fights but relying on people who generally expect a one shot and leave if they don't get it after one round. Or even before that when somebody says "Sorry guys I'm new to the fight". Duty Finder is in most cases used to get some practice before joining local parties.
Like others have stated people wanted something challenging and not so "casual" friendly. They got the extreme battles. (Not going to argue the individual difficulty per person) but chances are if you guys can't beat it (Having problems to dodge etc) those fights are not for you. If you feel like you should be able to beat it but are held back by others. Join those "screw up once and kick parties". Those are mostly not one-shots either but "bad"(please don't nail me on this word) players are replaced at much quicker rate.

Is it frustrating wiping on Titan X amount of times because people can't dodge consistently? Of course it is and this is where I agree the no "fun" can be applied.
Should the fight be changed? No. There are enough people beating it and on a personal node I wish these fights would be harder (random rotations anyone?).
There is content in this game that is not fun for everybody. I don't think crafting is fun in this game but I'm not running around telling everyone and their mother that crafting should be changed just because it doesn't appeal to me.

[Doo]

Can we please stop using DF as a valid source of clearing fights that need coordination? Yes parties happen in Duty finder where you clear those fights but relying on people who generally expect a one shot and leave if they don't get it after one round. Or even before that when somebody says "Sorry guys I'm new to the fight". Duty Finder is in most cases used to get some practice before joining local parties.

Players don't do this in Ultima because even though they fail over and over from my experience because the mechanics aren't cheap

[Miiu]

Players don't do this in Ultima because even though they fail over and over from my experience because the mechanics aren't cheap

Neither are Titan's.

[gadenp]

Neither are Titan's.

I don't agree. Titan mechanics are cheap.

[Doo]

Neither are Titan's.

Something is wrong with the mechanics when parties don't even stay after one or two tries while in Ultima most groups that I've been in stays till the end.

[Miiu]

Something is wrong with the mechanics when parties don't even stay after one or two tries while in Ultima most groups that I've been in stays till the end.

That experience is purely subjective. I had many groups in UltimaHM who broke up after the first failed attempt. And just because some people are impatient doesn't mean the mechanics are broken.

[Axidrain]

Something is wrong with the mechanics when parties don't even stay after one or two tries while in Ultima most groups that I've been in stays till the end.

id say theres something wrong with the players when they cant even figure out a fight

[Doo]

id say theres something wrong with the players when they cant even figure out a fight

Maybe but they are abundant in the game. On the forums everyone sounds like leet players but in game it sure doesn't seem that way. I have no issues with the fight (already have my relics) it's just bad when one person can ruin the fight for everyone or goofs up a certain rotation and it's over.

Glad to hear it's changed Htiome. It's not about difficulty rather I find it to be cheap difficulty. I love difficult content and I want the game to get even more challenging. I just don't like cheesy cheap difficulty. Then there's the whole phase and rotation stuff that's abundant in this game which I bet 90 percent of the players have to read and memorize online strats to get through it.