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    Well, you will be a stubborn to play with a guy who is hit by plumes, bombs, and landslide. You will be a great friends, but you can defeat titan extreme now unless others members from party will do 250 dps or more.

    I am selfish, i admit it. My objetives in the game are defeat all bosses. Fortunately, i found a great group who think like me. If one of them fail, he learn, practice and improve his skill, he don't go to forums, linkshells or FC crying because the actual content is done to "elite players".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
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    Why do people always confuse "not fun" with "cannot kill it"? They are two separate issues. Titan HM is a jagoff, easy to kill and not fun. Being poorly designed doesn't mean easy or hard, it just means its stupid. Titan EM is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    Why do people always confuse "not fun" with "cannot kill it"? They are two separate issues.
    Maybe it's because the one thing they get out of playing a MMO is this warm and fuzzy feeling that They Are So Great because they can clear something other can't.
    Maybe that's their idea of "fun", and according to this definition, this fight is indeed "fun".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    Why do people always confuse "not fun" with "cannot kill it"? They are two separate issues. Titan HM is a jagoff, easy to kill and not fun. Being poorly designed doesn't mean easy or hard, it just means its stupid. Titan EM is stupid.
    Why is titan EM stupid? is it hard/easy? is it not fun?

    I enjoy fighting Titan's encounter. the adrenalin, the nervous and the loose all stress when is defeated.

    If you don't enjoy that kind of encounter, Candy crush saga is yourº best option.

    I thought i don't learn the rotation but once and other trys i memorized it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    Why is titan EM stupid? is it hard/easy? is it not fun?

    If you don't enjoy that kind of encounter, Candy crush saga is yourº best option.
    You condescension does you a disservice. I have no issues myself in Titan EM, and as the title of the post says, Titan EM is not fun. You answered your own questions. Now then, how about you don't act like a self-important D-bag to people you know nothing about?

    I'm not doing Titan EM much at all, because I find it stupid. It isn't, however, hard. Like you said, it's memorization. . . even toddlers can memorize things.

    We don't have to agree about fun or not, but don't insult people unprovoked.
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    Oh please, don't say you haven't problems titan's encounter if you are not defeated yet.

    Now, you will talk "it's more fun leveling all class to 50, do CT all time until you get the item what do you want and other stuffs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    Oh please, don't say you haven't problems titan's encounter if you are not defeated yet.

    Now, you will talk "it's more fun leveling all class to 50, do CT all time until you get the item what do you want and other stuffs".
    If you run with the same group and 2-3 people keep dying to WoTL there won't be a clear. Oh wait... you are impatient and will cut people from a group instead of helping. This is something you'll never understand. I'll say it again for everyone who is thinking it, Titan EM is easy.

    Leveling all classes to fifty and running CT might be fun for some people, it isn't for me, but I'm not everyone. You are also not everyone, and you are not in charge of what they are allowed to enjoy. Again, your condescension does you a disservice and makes you look like an under-informed fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    If you run with the same group and 2-3 people keep dying to WoTL there won't be a clear. Oh wait... you are impatient and will cut people from a group instead of helping. This is something you'll never understand. I'll say it again for everyone who is thinking it, Titan EM is easy.

    Leveling all classes to fifty and running CT might be fun for some people, it isn't for me, but I'm not everyone. You are also not everyone, and you are not in charge of what they are allowed to enjoy. Again, your condescension does you a disservice and makes you look like an under-informed fool.
    I wouldn't cut someone down because they don't agree with the perspective. On the other hand, I wouldn't be offering the opinion I had if I hadn't gone through this kind of content before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    Why is titan EM stupid? is it hard/easy? is it not fun?

    I enjoy fighting Titan's encounter. the adrenalin, the nervous and the loose all stress when is defeated.

    If you don't enjoy that kind of encounter, Candy crush saga is yourº best option.

    I thought i don't learn the rotation but once and other trys i memorized it.



    This img help me
    The very problem with end game combat is that they require these resources to begin with. It's an arms race between players developing strategy guides for bosses and the developers trying to make ever harder bosses because players make the strategy guides. It's gotten to the point where we have fights that advertise attacks as they happen, and unless someone is a savant, they wont be able to react in time and die the first time they encounter it. This kind of thing exists in arcades so people throw more quarters in the machine and it is never to the players benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    It's an arms race between players developing strategy guides for bosses and the developers trying to make ever harder bosses because players make the strategy guides.
    This game is like the classic trap of the arms race, similar to how originally WoW developers spent most of their time on coming up with mechanism to beat the game's own add-ons. They might as well start requiring people to also be juggling 3 balls in real life while doing extreme mode or none of your abilities will have an effect. The problem is, as one WoW developer said before, is that there are way more players than you and they're probably smarter than you to begin with, so if you're trying to outsmart them you'd just find out you lose in the end.

    It really doesn't help that this game depends far more on gimmicks than actual execution for most of its difficulty. That is, there are a lot of mechanism that just don't make a lot of sense and can't be reasonably figured out by normal people. However, all it takes is one guy who figured out that is willing to share to let people know what the secret is, and then we're back to square one.
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