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    Quote Originally Posted by Terius View Post
    It's extreme mode, not cuddly bear mode. :P
    Because those are clearly the only two options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cainejw View Post
    Because those are clearly the only two options.
    Pretty much if you analyze the MMORPG playerbase this generation - Too hard? People want it nerfed into the ground so they can faceroll it. Too easy? People want a challenge mode - "happy medium" no longer exists due to the current generation because the playerbase that will make a company the most money will almost always consider something "too hard, nerf it" if it can't be done within 10 minutes or with minimal work.

    That's why F2P, B2P, Freemium and DLC does so well these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Pretty much if you analyze the MMORPG playerbase this generation - Too hard? People want it nerfed into the ground so they can faceroll it. Too easy? People want a challenge mode - "happy medium" no longer exists due to the current generation because the playerbase that will make a company the most money will almost always consider something "too hard, nerf it" if it can't be done within 10 minutes or with minimal work.

    That's why F2P, B2P, Freemium and DLC does so well these days.
    There are several ways in which a content can be hard or easy.
    Nothing will ever satisfy everyone. But even within "hard" or "easy", you can make variations.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/80152-GAMEBREAKING-Ability-moving-objects-delay-and-unresponsiveness-%28affects-everybody%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billie21 View Post
    There are several ways in which a content can be hard or easy.
    Nothing will ever satisfy everyone. But even within "hard" or "easy", you can make variations.
    Couldn't of said it better myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Pretty much if you analyze the MMORPG playerbase this generation - Too hard? People want it nerfed into the ground so they can faceroll it. Too easy? People want a challenge mode - "happy medium" no longer exists.
    Again, binaries. People are continuous, not binaries.

    I believe the problem with Titan, outside of the lag issues that are running rampant right now, is that your teammates become hazards due to Weight. In contrast to Ultima's Weights which are set. However, Plumes/Eruptions in Ultima cause your teammates to become hazards once again. Frankly, I'm of the belief that your teammate should never, ever be a hazard. I believe it is completely antithetical to an MMO to have a teammate, due to a certain mechanic, be the reason another teammate dies. It encourages some really uncooperative play.

    Here's a great example:

    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    Oh please, don't compare a fun boss as first one from WP than a big encounter like titan extreme.

    Admit it, or you play with bad players or you are a bad player.

    Other option is that you are playing using a toaster as a computer.
    What about this comment says, "We're playing an MMO. Let's all play together, challenge ourselves, but ultimately come through it because we were a team"? To me, it says, "You suck. I'm better. Don't be bad."
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    Last edited by cainejw; 01-05-2014 at 05:27 AM.

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    Well, you will be a stubborn to play with a guy who is hit by plumes, bombs, and landslide. You will be a great friends, but you can defeat titan extreme now unless others members from party will do 250 dps or more.

    I am selfish, i admit it. My objetives in the game are defeat all bosses. Fortunately, i found a great group who think like me. If one of them fail, he learn, practice and improve his skill, he don't go to forums, linkshells or FC crying because the actual content is done to "elite players".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    See above
    Why do people always confuse "not fun" with "cannot kill it"? They are two separate issues. Titan HM is a jagoff, easy to kill and not fun. Being poorly designed doesn't mean easy or hard, it just means its stupid. Titan EM is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    Why do people always confuse "not fun" with "cannot kill it"? They are two separate issues.
    Maybe it's because the one thing they get out of playing a MMO is this warm and fuzzy feeling that They Are So Great because they can clear something other can't.
    Maybe that's their idea of "fun", and according to this definition, this fight is indeed "fun".
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/80152-GAMEBREAKING-Ability-moving-objects-delay-and-unresponsiveness-%28affects-everybody%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    Why do people always confuse "not fun" with "cannot kill it"? They are two separate issues. Titan HM is a jagoff, easy to kill and not fun. Being poorly designed doesn't mean easy or hard, it just means its stupid. Titan EM is stupid.
    Why is titan EM stupid? is it hard/easy? is it not fun?

    I enjoy fighting Titan's encounter. the adrenalin, the nervous and the loose all stress when is defeated.

    If you don't enjoy that kind of encounter, Candy crush saga is yourº best option.

    I thought i don't learn the rotation but once and other trys i memorized it.



    This img help me
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    Quote Originally Posted by rappa View Post
    Why is titan EM stupid? is it hard/easy? is it not fun?

    If you don't enjoy that kind of encounter, Candy crush saga is yourº best option.
    You condescension does you a disservice. I have no issues myself in Titan EM, and as the title of the post says, Titan EM is not fun. You answered your own questions. Now then, how about you don't act like a self-important D-bag to people you know nothing about?

    I'm not doing Titan EM much at all, because I find it stupid. It isn't, however, hard. Like you said, it's memorization. . . even toddlers can memorize things.

    We don't have to agree about fun or not, but don't insult people unprovoked.
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