Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Raikki]

The "elites" are self entitled because they have gotten so use to working with server lag, they think it is "normal" and it keeps the "scrubs" off their game.

Hint: Your wrong, and you are the minority. Shocking, I know... I hope us"casuals" ruin this game for you, because honestly, the forums and the in-game community would be a lot less toxic with you gone.

I play with people at the edges of the NA datacenter's intended coverage area (west coast US and Europe) and we all dodge on reaction, not prediction, so your theory is flawed. I also don't call anyone a "scrub" and have no interest in seeing "casuals" driven out of the game. I don't think all the content in the game needs to be casual-friendly, though, nor do I think all the content in the game should be hardcore. I think there needs to be a variety. I understand that you don't want to deal with mechanics you find frustrating, and that's fine. The answer to that is to simply not do the fights you don't enjoy. Don't do Titan Extreme. It's as easy as that. You can even buy ilvl90 accessories and weapons using tomes, so you're not missing out on gear. The content is there for the people who do enjoy it or are willing to do what it takes to complete it and be rewarded for doing so.

You apparently only want the game to have content that's fun for you, and you want people who enjoy other things to be driven out. I want the game to have a variety of content that meets both of our interests. I don't expect everything to be enjoyable to me, and quite a lot of it is not, and that's fine. Which of us is really acting "entitled" here?

[ArtEmisPalmecia]

I play with people at the edges of the NA datacenter's intended coverage area (west coast US and Europe) and we all dodge on reaction, not prediction, so your theory is flawed. I also don't call anyone a "scrub" and have no interest in seeing "casuals" driven out of the game. I don't think all the content in the game needs to be casual-friendly, though, nor do I think all the content in the game should be hardcore. I think there needs to be a variety. I understand that you don't want to deal with mechanics you find frustrating, and that's fine. The answer to that is to simply not do the fights you don't enjoy. Don't do Titan Extreme. It's as easy as that. You can even buy ilvl90 accessories and weapons using tomes, so you're not missing out on gear. The content is there for the people who do enjoy it or are willing to do what it takes to complete it and be rewarded for doing so.

You apparently only want the game to have content that's fun for you, and you want people who enjoy other things to be driven out. I want the game to have a variety of content that meets both of our interests. I don't expect everything to be enjoyable to me, and quite a lot of it is not, and that's fine. Which of us is really acting "entitled" here?

I will take the time to write out a more proper response to your post as it is very well written out and not completely condescending like others on this forum, but I'm sorry to say that your response is somewhat flawed. Once you fight Titan so many times, you are playing off prediction, not reaction. Why? Cause it is a 100% scripted fight, and people will eventually start to memorize the moves in some form, even if they cannot call it out themselves perfectly. If the extreme mode content is made for the minority crowd, it should not be so easily accessible via Duty Finder for a casual to jump into. It should of been handled in the same manner as the Binding Coil, or like in FFXI; where it is either your in a HNM linkshell, or not. It was pretty much cut and dry on which content was made for which group.

[Raikki]

Once you fight Titan so many times, you are playing off prediction, not reaction. Why? Cause it is a 100% scripted fight, and people will eventually start to memorize the moves in some form, even if they cannot call it out themselves perfectly.

Sure, after a while prediction kicks in, but early on when you don't have enough experience it's all reaction. Nobody's perfect but both in Hard and Extreme I've seen lots and lots of people able to jump right in and dodge on reaction well before they could have the experience or awareness to know when plumes were coming. It's mostly about being alert.

If the extreme mode content is made for the minority crowd, it should not be so easily accessible via Duty Finder for a casual to jump into. It should of been handled in the same manner as the Binding Coil, or like in FFXI; where it is either your in a HNM linkshell, or not. It was pretty much cut and dry on which content was made for which group.

Availability through the duty finder is a poor indicator of what is casual vs. what is hardcore content. Coil is missing from the duty finder likely due to difficulty in working out how to handle progress saves and syncing and entrance lockouts, features which no other content available via duty finder incorporates. Additionally, access to Titan Extreme is locked behind a Garuda Extreme clear, which itself is locked behind a Titan Hard clear.

[CatholicFan]

...access to Titan Extreme is locked behind a Garuda Extreme clear, which itself is locked behind a Titan Hard clear.

A player can be carried through Garuda X to some extent. I had a discussion with a person in my Titan X party last night who used to sell Titan HM clears. He half-joked, something to the effect of, he's now paying the price for all those relic sales because people can access content they weren't skilled/geared/ISP'd for. Because Garuda X is not a particularly difficult fight, I think there will be many people that make it to the wall that is Titan X and progress no further (until selling Titan X runs is more of a thing).