Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[HumsterMKX]

This is how difficulty in video games have been since the beginning ...

And pull the reminding 7 down with him. Get idea.

The problem I see in content is over reliance on others. When we have that, great drama ensures and believe or not, slowly tears the community apart.

I can dodge stuff great, but others can't so what can I do. Ask them in the area of "..git good nubz"? Or be patient and waste time teaching. Yes, waste time teaching. Why waste? Because you never know how it is getting through with them.
What about the other guy the keeps failing? He either gets depressed for pulling everyone down with him and try all he can to get better and still fail. Or he can blame everyone else.

The problem lies here. Do we as a COMMUNITY have the patience to understand the failure of oneself and others.

And the flat answer is a fat "NO". You guys are going to hate me for this, but generally it is a big fat NO. And content like this does not help at all.

I seen close LSmates at each other throats due to Titan, I have seen players taking it too easy and casual ending up unwillingly offending others, I have also seen ppl taking stuff too easy and causal so as to troll others, I have seen ppl so hardcore that they are willing to stomp over others.

Is hard content good? Is easier contend good? Seriously I don't know anymore. I rather want content that allows ppl to clear if they place in some effort.

O ya one more thing.

In before generic relies that goes within the realm of ".....go play hellokitty online.."

[Rochetm]

I can dodge stuff great, but others can't so what can I do. Ask them in the area of "..git good nubz"? Or be patient and waste time teaching.

Its pretty much impossible to carry people in this game the way I have been able to in other MMOs. I was fine being the star player that drags others along for the ride. Sadly I cannot do that in this game on the level I could in others. So my choices are spend hours wiping on something because lesser skilled players in my group need that kind of time or kick them and try and find someone better.

One healer can pick up a bit if the other healer isn't to good. Dps can make up a little for other dps being low but not much and tanks can't really do anything about the other tank being bad. Pretty much everyone must be at a skill level that is much higher than what I am used to.

I am pretty sure this is a common problem in FFXIV. All of the content so far has been very easy once you reach a certain skill level. If you can make it to that point there is actually a lot of room for error.

[Ri_ri]

What about the other guy the keeps failing? He either gets depressed for pulling everyone down with him and try all he can to get better and still fail.

That would be me.
I'm not new to raiding so I can multi task, memorize mechanics and execute them with little learning time.

Ask me to remember the whole of a boss' rotation and dodge stuff (pre-move) while healing, that's when I start failing over and over. This kind of content is not fun to me. It's just frustrating, when it ends instead of feeling happy and accomplished I just feel relieved that it's over.

Also, personal rant, whose brilliant idea was to make this an action RPG, anyway?
I'm pretty sure Final Fantasy was always about deep strategies, not about "dodging"... I already play Touhou for that crap. Leave it out of my RPG.

Sorry, but you haven't been playing Mario very long if that's what you think. Mario uses instant death all the time. Instant death pits, scrolling screens that can crush you against a wall/push you off a cliff, lava, falling ceilings/crushing walls, fish that can swallow you whole...it's a staple of every classic Mario game.

Mario is a platformer, though. Not sure why Raikki brought that up.

Even Final Fantasy used things like Doom, Death Sentence, Everybody's Grudge, Level 5 Death, Ultima, and so on to instantly kill you... but you never died because you "lacked the reflexes" (read: ping).

[Mags]

The problem I see in content is over reliance on others. When we have that, great drama ensures and believe or not, slowly tears the community apart.

This is the nature of the beast, and there is no other way to do difficulty.

I meant rely as in the way Rochetm explained it. In FFXI pre abyssea you can always recover in fights if you have skilled enough players while in FFXIV doesn't matter how skilled you are if you can't burn the heart when someone falls.

And therein lies the challenge and difficulty. It is not a new concept in MMOs, nor will it pass anytime soon. Stuff on the ground, move out of the way. Its simple really, and you can somewhat predict it's pattern or at the very least know when it might occur. The difficulty isn't in the individual but the team as a whole to coordinate the pattern.

Same with needing enough DPS to burn a node before a wipe mechanic pops. Its simple gear check.