Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Ramesses]

Titan is both fun and demoralizing. It's fun because it's a fun fight. It's demoralizing when you're stuck on it for 6 months because you can't get 7 other people together who can dodge and it's locking you out of every other extreme primal.

Yeah... this. I just noticed that several people have quoted you on this and I just had to join the tally.

I cannot express how much I actually hate this battle... it is utterly ridiculous and I hate what it does to the party dynamic. I've even seen highly skilled players fail this stupid crap several times and like I said before, its far gotten to a point where it needs to be an isolated solo trial. Your play, your skill, your lag, your trial... solo.

Either that or they need to have an extra 1 second delay placed on his abilities because those puddles are just full of it, lag or no lag... this has been argued several several several times before.

Simply applying the echo buff is not the only solution the Devs should be considering... and the more that newer players approach this stage of the game, the more there will be an ensuing bottleneck on it... and eventually it could make them seek another game.

[Xisin]

To me... Titan was the best thin in the game thats happened to my pocket... I've made tons of gil off it.

I don't really think it should be made any easier or harder than what it is currently though, the fight is fine and while I do agree not everyone can find a pt of people as tenacious as I had on our first clear (we cleared it the day it launched) it is possible to learn the fight (from scratch mind you, we had no guides) with the same people over the course of a couple of hours, from there you have to fine-tune your own actions. As it stands I can currently get out of plumes with time to spare.

My advice is to find a group of friends and just tackle it, doesnt have to be 5 hours a day, it can be as little as one fight a day... you'll get it. Then just duty finder up when you have spare time. Nothing worth anything should come easy...

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

The only problem I have is them triple/quintuple landslides. Sometimes I'm nowhere in them and just because a split end of my hair happens to be near the AOE, I get hit. Other times I barely make it out because it looks like I'm still in it when it goes off. The latency is killer. But I've been practicing and getting my timing/distancing a lot better. I was really down about it as this and T5 were really stonewalling me into quitting, but since I've found the resolve to keep at it I can honestly say this has to be the second most punishing fight for beginner raid level.

Why CT is even listed as a raid is beyond me. That place is such a joke. The only "difficulty" is playing with a bunch of tards who don't do their jobs properly or understand the mechanics. Even in my first time there, I was a tank, FC mate was the other tank. He explained to me what would happen and I only died once on the whole way (wasn't paying attention to Diras in Thanatos arena, got feared/nuked xD ).

[NorthernLadMSP]

I finally beat him today, and I'm so happy to have been able to get past him. Been doing some Ifrit EX today, and I really like that fight. It's pretty fun.

[Raxiaz]

Yeah keeping a fight just to fill peoples' pockets is not the way to ****ing go.

Honestly, most groups are good until post-heart. The two additional mini-Titans throw people off, not to mention the bomb patterns. You would think they'd have left bomb patterns out of it entirely... just to make things slightly easier for players during that difficult phase. Keep the impossible-to-dodge bombs, so that there's still BOMBS, but lay off the bomb patterns before & after them.

I'm a MNK i90 and I can do the fight no problem, finding other people who can do it... quite a problem. I once spent 2 hours with the SAME GROUP and no matter what you could expect us to fail post-heart. You would think some people learn but alas... that is not the case... :|

[AeirTalies]

I too am tired of everything being heavy on dodging. Yeah in some fights it can be fun but in every single fight? I want new content. I want fights that can take a couple hours without the stress of 1hko's every other attack. I want bosses with puzzles requiring you to bring a boss to an area just to deal damage. I wanna fight 6 or so bosses at once that have different strengths and weaknesses.

It feels like every boss/primal is the exact same with different attacks, and aeo shapes and sizes. I'm bored with it and desperate for creative battles

[BearGrylls]

Not so much anymore because we've run it a bazillion times, but personally I found Titan EX extremely fun.... when running it with my FC. You know that no one is going to make stupid mistakes (most of the time). I wouldn't say PuGs are "not fun", its just that you can be 98% sure you're not going to beat it and someone is going to die on the first plumes/LS.

[Purrfectstorm]

I bought my first Titan EX win for 300k gil. A good chunk of my money was refunded when a tank DC'ed and I took over and lived to the end, never getting hit by anything. I was stuck on that fight for a while so nobody can say I just didn't put the time in. I must've tried that fight hundreds of times. Finally I just got so frustrated by being stuck that I paid for the win, which since I knew the fight inside and out was just paying for other competent players at that point.

I'm not at all ashamed. I look at buying wins only in pragmatic terms: will the group actually win, can I afford the gil, and is there a point in clearing this piece of content right now? Since I knew the group and making 300k takes me about 2 hours (much less than the 50 or so I spent on Titan), it was really only the last part that concerned me.

Since everyone assured me that the other EX primals were easier and I wanted to start farming them while the gear was still relevant, it was an easy decision. I shelled out the gil and have been happier ever since. Of course SE will probably see how many people have the achievement and conclude that Titan EX is perfectly fine as is

[Spanky]

Titan was the most difficult Primal for a long time in FFXI... Titan is a boss, and should remain a boss ass bit**

[Garlyle]

Titan is both fun and demoralizing. It's fun because it's a fun fight. It's demoralizing when you're stuck on it for 6 months because you can't get 7 other people together who can dodge and it's locking you out of every other extreme primal.

This is my exact feeling. I absolutely love the fight itself; it's crazily intense.

It's also so intense that I can't get a group of players who can successfully clear it. And it's starting to drive me a little batty, because I really want to get onto Ifrit, Good King, Leviathan, and be ready to jump into Ramuh when 2.3 hits. At this point I'm at something like 15 hours of failed attempts, despite having made it through an entire cycle on post-Heart as both DPS and Healer at this point.

I love this fight, I'll come back to it regularly

but oh my god at the same time I just really want to be done.