Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[gadenp]

Was it cheap difficulty? Isn't that subjective? Didn't you stay away from games like this if you didn't like this type of punishing difficulty? If so, why aren't you staying away from Titan?

Because SE lock me out of all the other End Game content I want to play that gives me progression.

Because this patch consists of 2 ilvl 60 dungeons, 2 ilvl 80 dungeons and 3 ilvl 90 end level dungeons. And of cause CT, that FF14 seems not to want me to do. Being it locks out any progression extremely fast.

So you mean that as a paying customer, I need to wait for 37.5% of the patch 2.1 content to become available to me @ 6 months time?

Some more the ilvl 90 content is the only content that brings me progression. Ever other content is a step back.

Best is my extreme run hinges on a stupid Duty that I already explain why it is bad mechanics so many times. Do not need to explain again.

[Riepah]

Contra for the NES (I remember playing this as a child with a friend. We never really made it past the first level more often than not)
Mario (same concept: memorize or die)
Same with some Mega Man games
Demon Souls
Ninja Gaiden on the PS2
Battletoads
Cave Story's hell level

Feck: have you guys played Tetris?!

I don't know about Battletoads and Cave Story, but those other games punished you for your own mistakes and your own mistakes only, not the mistakes of yourself and 7 other people combined.

[Hitome]

I don't know about Battletoads and Cave Story, but those other games punished you for your own mistakes and your own mistakes only, not the mistakes of yourself and 7 other people combined.

Ever try the Wii version of SMBs? Frustrating? Yes because I have no control over my teammate(s) bouncing on my head and throwing me into lava. Was it fun? Yeah it was: especially after we beat some of the harder levels.

On Titan Ex, you do rely on other players. But your success is often determined by the success of the individual and not the group. Ex) One person gets landslided off and the 7 others do not. That one person happened to be a healer or tank? Time to wipe it up and start again. You try again and this time two DPS are landslided off. Wipe it up and start again.

Real emphasis on individual play to win. This is what I think many people have issues coming to terms with. You are used to being able to recover or used to people being able to take up the slack of other individuals. In fights like Twin and Titan Ex, you cannot rely on your other members as much as you used to. Result? You need to play pretty well.

[Doo]

Fair enough. I wonder if this is a generational thing. I'm so used to playing games that punish you for even the most tiny of errors.

Me too, I played FFXI pre abyssea. Tiny errors are ok in single player games but the margin should be more reasonable in 8 man content don't you think?

[Miiu]

I still don't get where the cheap mechanics come from. All the Titan mechanics are known throughout the fight they follow the same order and you can dodge all of them. It's not like Titan goes around and pushes players of the platform just because he feels like it with no castbar/warning etc. Than people had all reasons to complain.

I don't know about Battletoads and Cave Story, but those other games punished you for your own mistakes and your own mistakes only, not the mistakes of yourself and 7 other people combined.

You are playing in a group the peformance of each individual should reflect the outcome of a battle. Don't see anything wrong with that.

[Dazd]

Those games didn't rely on having a fiber internet connection.

[gadenp]

Those games didn't rely on having a fiber internet connection.

Actually is 8 Internet Connections.

[Miiu]

Those games didn't rely on having a fiber internet connection.

Every (competetive) mulitplayer relies on a fast connection.

[gadenp]

Every (competetive) mulitplayer relies on a fast connection.

FF14 is competitive? That is news to me? I thought it was a casual MMORPG game. In fact that is the whole reason why I got it.

Where did the competition come in. For that matter, where did the ACTION aspect come in.

I have never played a FF game that action/reflects is a major part of the game still Titan..... Cannot even say FF14 ARR, because it is seriously only Titan.

I am fine for making it harder. But such twitch game play is not making it hard, it is just trolling.

[Dazd]

I'm not talking about multiplayer games, I'm talking about old school Nintendo games and such.

To elaborate I love the fight, is it frustrating at times though? Yes. I live in Australia and whether or not I survive can be a crap shoot, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't, I don't think the fight is too hard at all it's just memorizing patterns and hoping the server actually considers you out of aoe when you are.

Comparing a game that relies on a high speed internet connection to games that are actually hard and do not rely on an internet connection is asinine though.