Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Billie21]

While I think there are some pple that actually have problem with fights because of latency issues. I feel like there are alot of pple who just don't know Titan's rotation of moves and blame it on other things, like lag or latency etc. Most pple I believe that can't beat it for whatever reason are usually the ones to say this fight is stupid or is not fun.

There are pple who are able to beat it consistently even when there are latency issues, call it what you will but to me these pple are just better players that can adapt and not just blame their fails on other things like lag. These pple accept that they screwed up, this is a way to overcome challenges, if you're just gonna sit and whine about latency issues or how this fight is stupid or boring, you have no sympathy from anyone and you're just making excuses.

Probably because some people entered this fight expecting to enjoy the same experience that some have described here on this thread (people who have no technical problems, apparently, or not enough that the only way for them to succeed is to know the fight by heart and pre-move on everything)?

Yes it can be overcome, but maybe not the way people expected? So they blame "lag", because it's what prevents them from defeating the fight WITHOUT memorising every single move and pre-moving everything. Some actually do not enjoy blind-memory game, and did not expect this game to revolve around it (and for people with no technical issues, apparently, it doesn't).

[Sygmaelle]

I'm in france and not a single problem latency wise. Titan EX is just memory and on top, timing wise its a super easy fight.

Bombs take more time to explode, the only check is the double gaol. People are bad. It's not the fight that isn't fun, it's people that just can't play and find excuses for everything. In pretty much every single group I end with by usin Duty Finder theres always someone dyin on the very first spawn of plumes. The very first one. And of course, always lag to blame instead of reaction time that is clearly not the one X player should have had.

[NeoAmon]

Man I must have fought him 50+ times with PUGs and DF this week.

I can see why this fight is hated, I really do understand. On personal level when everyone is doing good, I'm being bad, super bad. When everyone sucks, I'm out living the entire team with 0 mistakes until he is ded or close to ded. The main issue from what I have seen is that the fight require perfection. I see many of you say that the fight is easy, I agree but there is requirements for it to be easy.

1- No one having lag issues. This is the biggest problem, I play with players from around the world, some I know pure fact that their skill level is in the top %1. However, when they are having a bad day cause ISP or SE servers decided to lag, there is no progress.

2- Everyone is on the same page, knows the fight and able to produce results. This is also very hard, unless you are doing Titan with your static Coil group, it can be a nightmare to get everyone motivated to be on the same page. Healers specially, rage quit way too fast.

3- Luck. Come on there is a bit of luck to it, from forming a balanced PUG group to crits, sometimes all that is standing in the way is just a bit of luck.

[Dalavon]

It's an EXTREME mode for a reason... Everything he does is on rotation, learn it and the fights in the bag. I hate when people complain that shits to hard. Work for it! They aren't going to hand you wins on a silver platter like other games.

[NyneAlexander]

the biggest issue with this fight is other players. Both the players that don't know the rotation and the extreme elitest jerks who put down other players for not knowing the rotation instead of helping them learn the rotation. Of course people are gonna lie and make excuses if everytime they make a mistake some PLD is there telling them their mother shouldn't have given birth to them because they got hit by some plumes.

[Sygmaelle]

the biggest issue with this fight is other players. Both the players that don't know the rotation and the extreme elitest jerks who put down other players for not knowing the rotation instead of helping them learn the rotation. Of course people are gonna lie and make excuses if everytime they make a mistake some PLD is there telling them their mother shouldn't have given birth to them because they got hit by some plumes.

I did macros for the whole rotation that I'm spammin all the time But its still not helpin for the majority, and everyone blame the lag ...

Seriously die because the enemy drops you to the lava and 90% of the times is because the lag...

Not really.

[Doo]

I did macros for the whole rotation that I'm spammin all the time But its still not helpin for the majority, and everyone blame the lag ...

Yeah if someone really wants to learn the fight in detail there are plenty of youtube vids and guides on how to do it. Asking during the fight is just too complicated for most players to absorb and improve enough to actually win the majority of time.

[ArtEmisPalmecia]

This thread probably wouldn't exist if SE actually let the client determine who was in the hit box, and not the server.
The delay between animation and having the damage register is laughable and shameful on SE's part at the same time.

[KazerD]

This thread probably wouldn't exist if SE actually let the client determine who was in the hit box, and not the server.
The delay between animation and having the damage register is laughable and shameful on SE's part at the same time.

I said this earlier- but seeing myself and other players dead way outside of the plume's area of effect is comical and irritating- especially when I am mocked by other player's who experience no latency. I was reading some other posts on the forums and the problem could be stemming from certain ISPs treating FF14 as a P2P.

Off topic, but, player's claiming that pre-moving is a solid option for mitigating plume latency should consider that if someone moves from plumes prematurely, they run the risk of pushing that plume farther which will damage the group- in turn- getting yelled at for not stacking correctly.

[Ri_ri]

This thread probably wouldn't exist if SE actually let the client determine who was in the hit box, and not the server.
The delay between animation and having the damage register is laughable and shameful on SE's part at the same time.

Or rather, got more creative with their bosses...

I have the feeling that even if it were offline, I wouldn't enjoy it. HM was "fine" because it introduced the Mountain Buster... we didn't need the EM bringing even more AoE.

Whatever, I don't need to prove anything to anybody. The entire fight is scripted, eating anything shows obvious lack of skill or lag. And if you have lag and don't do anything about it, it's still your fault anyway.

That's some crazy ego trip you're going on