Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Castillan]

The root of the problem lies solely in the server-side detection of avoiding an AoE. The Primal fights are not a level playing field for all players, they scale in difficulty dependent upon your location relative to the server, and how loaded your link to the server is. This, coupled with die-once/stay-dead penalties for a number of the fights, which then in turn generally causing team wipes as a result, makes a number of the instances extremely frustrating for significant portions of the playing population. For me, after looking at the extreme primal fights online, I already know that they are utterly impossible with server-side hit detection for my network latency, even with WTFast running. It is disappointing to pay for a game that sections of the content are effectively excluded from play due to technical difficulties.

[WendyMarvell]

This fight is my personal favorite. While I do agree with the Extra Credits video, I do not think this game is just "punishing". I can't really think of any instances where there is no way to outplay something the game thorws at you except for twintania's liquid hell spam which is just bad luck. When you (your party) fails the attempt to retry is close to instant.

Some extra thoughts: some people lag, but that is in general something SE has little control over. Personally I've never had this problem.
Some people are too slow, get better...
Lastly and probably most frustrating, this is not a single player game. This means that in a fight that is difficult it does not require you to make a mistake for you to lose, but any of the other 7 players in there. Tio add to your frustration, it is very easy to think that you are doing the correct thing most of the time (people that play any MOBA can probably relate).

[Leon_Stormrage]

I didn't cleared it yet, but I find the fight pretty fun. I love Titan HM and now I am loving it EX.

[Rain_Art]

Seems like OP never played Dark Souls

[Rolvag]

there are two kind of people.. these who love Titan and these who dont love it YET ^^

[homunyan]

I was someone who made fun of people who thought Titan HM is hard, EM is not fun. the timing on Extreme Mode is so tight that on my (pretty decent, i thought) connection avoiding weight of the land is basically a dice role. It's not fun because there's not really any skill involved. It's not like HM where you just have to memorize stuff. While some of the additions (like the double gaol) are clever, the instant death dodge mechanic is basically luck unless you live next to the server thanks to the nature of network latency and the FFXIV staff's refusal or inability to make stuff like this operate client side.

[AdvancedWind]

I was someone who made fun of people who thought Titan HM is hard, EM is not fun. the timing on Extreme Mode is so tight that on my (pretty decent, i thought) connection avoiding weight of the land is basically a dice role. It's not fun because there's not really any skill involved. It's not like HM where you just have to memorize stuff. While some of the additions (like the double gaol) are clever, the instant death dodge mechanic is basically luck unless you live next to the server thanks to the nature of network latency and the FFXIV staff's refusal or inability to make stuff like this operate client side.

I guess South America is next to the server, then.

[Bankai305]

I was someone who made fun of people who thought Titan HM is hard, EM is not fun. the timing on Extreme Mode is so tight that on my (pretty decent, i thought) connection avoiding weight of the land is basically a dice role. It's not fun because there's not really any skill involved. It's not like HM where you just have to memorize stuff. While some of the additions (like the double gaol) are clever, the instant death dodge mechanic is basically luck unless you live next to the server thanks to the nature of network latency and the FFXIV staff's refusal or inability to make stuff like this operate client side.

EM is EXACTLY like HM. All his moves are scripted. He'll never do anything unexpectedly. Memorize his pattern, and you can anticipate plumes if that's what's killing you. If you know when he's going to use plumes, there is no excuse for getting hit. All other moves/phases/egis everything is scripted, there is no element of surprise.

[NyneAlexander]

EM is EXACTLY like HM. All his moves are scripted. He'll never do anything unexpectedly. Memorize his pattern, and you can anticipate plumes if that's what's killing you. If you know when he's going to use plumes, there is no excuse for getting hit. All other moves/phases/egis everything is scripted, there is no element of surprise.

except for row bombs. even though you know they're coming, sometimes they come at a crazy angle and your raid can't (or doesn't) bait the landslide the right way.

[Quattrob]

While I think there are some pple that actually have problem with fights because of latency issues. I feel like there are alot of pple who just don't know Titan's rotation of moves and blame it on other things, like lag or latency etc. Most pple I believe that can't beat it for whatever reason are usually the ones to say this fight is stupid or is not fun.

There are pple who are able to beat it consistently even when there are latency issues, call it what you will but to me these pple are just better players that can adapt and not just blame their fails on other things like lag. These pple accept that they screwed up, this is a way to overcome challenges, if you're just gonna sit and whine about latency issues or how this fight is stupid or boring, you have no sympathy from anyone and you're just making excuses.