Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

[Noahlimits]

The DPS and healers know where to position, but I'm asking about the tank/healer strategy for that portion.

Honestly, I've solo healed it a few times and the strategy stays the same. Cure II + SoS on the MT while the offtank is getting the adds. One medica II just to cure the AOE damage the party got from titan/adds, then divine seal + cures to top off whoever needs it.

After the the bombs, ranged+healers stay stacked at six'oclock for plumes. By the time plumes hit, the adds are usually dead/near dead.

Too bad you aren't in Gilgamesh. I'd run it with you just for a visual aspect.

[gadenp]

Honestly, I've solo healed it a few times and the strategy stays the same. Cure II + SoS on the MT while the offtank is getting the adds. One medica II just to cure the AOE damage the party got from titan/adds, then divine seal + cures to top off whoever needs it.

After the the bombs, ranged+healers stay stacked at six'oclock for plumes. By the time plumes hit, the adds are usually dead/near dead.

Too bad you aren't in Gilgamesh. I'd run it with you just for a visual aspect.

Noah, can you do a healer guide for Titan Ex, pretty please.

[gadenp]

As a WHM main. I HATE TITAN.

I hate how it makes me rage at others. For every mistake they make because it screws up my extremely strict healing routine that is extremely hard to deviate from. Or just fall out and cause problems with our DPS and thus confirm wipe. Especially if more then 1 get hit outside "standard" damage periods.
I dislike how people suddenly lag stop for 1 second, die and suddenly pop up outside the Weigh of Land area.
I dislike how I have done Titan Ex 40 runs and never completed it. Just a single mistake from anyone potentially wipes the party.
I dislike that in my server, Jap teams are now going ilvl 80 JP Only. And good Eng team, are going Only looking for experienced cleared members, also ilvl 80.
I dislike how I am level ilvl85 and get stuck with ilvl 70~ people doing Titan that I cannot formula how they passed Titan HM. And while it was not an issue for me before, it is becoming one now.
I dislike how I starting to rage at FC members, LS members, PUGs for any and every small mistake. And start seeing all my faults and other faults and start getting pissed of with my/their need to "L2P' in any aspects of FF14. Because now I compare all their/my play in if they can do Titan Ex or not.
I dislike how FC members and LS members that passed it are most seldom keen to help. While FC and LS members that have not done so and have no clue the Titan ex rotation jump at the chance to do it. And then I have to patiently for then xx time go forth and wipe with them.
I dislike now, I mark FC and LS members on whether they can potentially help me clear Titan ex, and if I see members that cannot help or are way worst them me. I start finding excuses to leave.
I dislike now that I find it takes more motivation to help others, because why should I keep on helping others when people do not want to help me.
I dislike that now I play FF14 with a level of piss-off-ness that just was never there before.
Also I dislike that my static group was busy in December, and as I wanted to do it. I had to pug DF, PF, beg. And then now I am back in wiping in Garuda while they learn it. I dislike that I dislike this.

All in all, I HATE TITAN and if this is the way SE wants to move the community towards, I got to say, such content will burn the community to the ground. I might be more high strung then others (I do not think so). I just being more open about what Titan is causing me to become ingame.

Even worst then Titan HM. Titan Ex has become a gated wall between the hardcore with good static groups and the rest of us. Casual Hardcore and real casuals included.
Between the younger twitch friendly crowd and the older lesser reflect crowd. Between people with good internet and no connection issues, and with people that have latency, lag, dc-ing issues.

[Goodberry]

<snip>Even worst then Titan HM. Titan Ex has become a gated wall between the hardcore with good static groups and the rest of us. Casual Hardcore and real casuals included.
Between the younger twitch friendly crowd and the older lesser reflect crowd. Between people with good internet and no connection issues, and with people that have latency, lag, dc-ing issues.

Well said. Why companies make such design choices in a MMO game will always beat me. There's a game which went to 12 million subscriptions just because everyone could play and have fun in it, from kids to fighter pilots to middle-aged hardcore raiders to grannies with hand arthritis (true). I have been in raid groups where ALL these types were represented...

[Vulpix]

Well said. Why companies make such design choices in a MMO game will always beat me. There's a game which went to 12 million subscriptions just because everyone could play and have fun in it, from kids to fighter pilots to middle-aged hardcore raiders to grannies with hand arthritis (true). I have been in raid groups where ALL these types were represented...

To be honest turn 1 to 4 of Coil does not require the amount of dodging Titan EX requires. One can have an awesome group that downs T1-4 without even batting an eyelid, but I'm not surprised if said group can't down Titan EM.

[Rekujen]

Back in my day, when you fell in lava.. YOU DIED.

None of this "10 dmg.. 10 dmg.. 10 dmg.." nonsense.

Stop complaining about dungeon difficulty.

[gadenp]

Back in my day, when you fell in lava.. YOU DIED.

None of this "10 dmg.. 10 dmg.. 10 dmg.." nonsense.

Stop complaining about dungeon difficulty.

Please go back and play those "in your day" games. Thanks.

And oh, thanks for posting this useful comment. Know that it has brighten my day and illuminated my life.

Now I just know I can take on Titan with a new PUG and just no die. Playing 100x time better then ever before! Really +1.

[razzgrizz3]

after finally geting my ex weapon heres my 2 cents.
titan took a whole week for me to find a party and beat it. garuda took 1 day. ifrit took 4 hours.
esentialy this fight is completely broken in my opinion. why? simply because the developers implemented a design which their system cannot acommodate (latency issues/cannot dodge properly). now before you say it is my internet consider that i was mainly playing with jp players. japan has the best internet in the world as far as i know. so if even they cannot dodge this how can you?

so what do you have to do in order to get that clear? esentialy you have to cheat the encounter. you have to memorize every plume every landslide every bomb patern. you have to memorize exactly when these come you have to anticipate them and pre dodge.
oh yeah you also have to find 7 other people who can do the same exact thing. this is the hardest part.

also use sprint.

[Maye]

From the perspective of someone with good latency(About 65 ms to the server) I actually find the fight to be pretty fun. The encounter is tuned such that "raw reaction" is just barely not good enough to avoid the fastest mechanic(plumes). As such your group needs to manage these in a way that makes them more predictable and you need to be expecting them.

Now, for a player with higher ping the only way to clear this encounter is to move ahead of time. I think I could clear this encounter in higher latencies(upwards of 200ms+) because I do have his rotation memorized -- but the learning process would be much, much, much more frustrating.

This type of reaction based play should really be handled client-side instead of server-side if you're expecting a global population to play your game on servers in exactly 2 different locations.

[Riv]

I remember when Titan hard mode was actually hard. Extreme will be that way eventually, just get used to it.