The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[Raestloz]

So you're basically saying

If (player.playLevel != ultra-hardcore){
StopProgress(Player)
}

T2 has enrage. For the longest time, people associate enrage with "instant death", then a group of people smarter than you (or luckier than you) tried its enrage mode and created an entirely new strategy that defies yours (and works better)

In battle, their strategy will be chosen over yours, simply by virtue of "failure is not an option".

Seriously, if you want everything to be locked down, maybe high level dungeons should be Sastasha Hard Mode, predictable with no way to try anything new. Devs had spoken, they're fine with T2. Instead of fixing T2, get them to give a boss to T3

[NRhodes]

Smarter? I'm sure avoiding all mechanics in a fight by simply "enraging" the boss is smarter than actually learning how to cope with them right? "Enrage Timers" are not some instant death notion but rather, in every other game a time limit before the boss should become more difficult, but instead, ADS becomes child's play. And I would hardly call it a strategy, just some group happened to look into it or tried to kill too many monitor nodes and hit the time limit. Now every completely casual player at end game, who never put any thought to Coil, can have a chance at free Allagan gear with no time or effort spent into learning the actual fight. Yeah, that sends a wonderful message. Not only that, but now raid teams who do the fight properly, who when in need of a replacement, have to reach out the community having to fear finding some backpacked casual player who jumped in Party Finder to get their free loot from T2 every week and has no clue how the fight actually works.=

[NRhodes]

It's a detriment to the community, point blank. It sends the wrong message.

Also, try as you might, regardless if SE has said otherwise. Any "strategy" for lack of a better word that completely removes any or all boss mechanics to trivialize or make the fight simpler in the benefit of said raid team is an exploit in my eyes, as it is for a lot of others who spent the hours grinding this out properly.

Ask those who "exploited" Twintania and were shunned for it.

[Peptaru]

It's a detriment to the community, point blank. It sends the wrong message.

Also, try as you might, regardless if SE has said otherwise. Any "strategy" for lack of a better word that completely removes any or all boss mechanics to trivialize or make the fight simpler in the benefit of said raid team is an exploit in my eyes, as it is for a lot of others who spent the hours grinding this out properly.

Ask those who "exploited" Twintania and were shunned for it.

Grinding for hours to do T2 properly? Dodge red, stun high voltage and go 1 2 3 4 5 took hours... seriously.... hours?! I fail to believe that is more than exaggeration. Turn 2 is simple no matter which way you do it. People have already discussed the Twintania exploit, the difference is that that was an exploit.

People on the forums raging about enraging are the ones sending the wrong message, and i hold that they are the detriment to the community. Pick up your pride, dust if off, and check it at the door, or play with only other people who do it your way. How other people (all them bads that you won't party with anyway) do turn 2 should have no effect on you.

[Viridiana]

Ask those who "exploited" Twintania and were shunned for it.

Again, Twintania's exploit completely and utterly stopped the boss from doing anything at all from 80%->0%, leaving the characters free to do whatever they wanted. It's completely disingenuous to compare the two. Same with the Titan exploit. Equating the two just makes you look desperate.