The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[ArniQQ]

They said it was fine because they're assuring it's not banable. My guess is that it will be fixed, cause it's pretty stupid at the moment.

[Daniolaut]

Wait, did you just imply that there was a job more boring than playing PLD on Titan Hard?

Sure bring three healers eat every bomb like a noob.... or play it the right way.

Take 2 healers,flash mountain buster and properly position yourself as a tank. Monk.. all i had to do was dodge. Same thing i do as pld. Except there is no "do this skill before this attack" mechanic. (At this point you go into titan with myth gear, can take 1 tank 1 healer)

So yes Monk in Titan HM is easier than PLD. If youre bored youre doing something wrong as this is a video game. Good day

[NRhodes]

Viridana, your point is completely for naught: Even with a 1/2/5 or 1/3/4 setup in Titan HM, it does not break the mechanics of the fight, period. Does it make it easier to down Heart Phase or make sure you have enough Heals to survive stomps, sure, but the mechanics are still there.

This "enraged" way of doing ADS completely nullifies all mechanics, including High Voltage, Tank swaps, dodging. Basically a free ride to loot in a fight that before took a good amount of coordination and understanding of watching your Rot debuff and passing it correctly (even in Stack method). This also forced Tanks to learn to swap every 3-4 stacks, 5 if you have good heals. Also hinged on the fact of making you dodge Piercing Lasers, Gravity Wells, Baltast, Fire Streams and Repelling Cannons depending on team composition and which path you took.

It's silly and should be changed. Enraging the boss should make him more difficult, not make him a pushover.

[DannyGreen]

I'm not sure there is enough wambulances available to deal with all of the causalities in this thread.

[Viridiana]

Sure bring three healers eat every bomb like a noob.... or play it the right way.

I'm talking about with the intended set up. Up until P5, you can stand in one spot perfectly still without eating a bomb. After heart, you might have to move to dodge a few bombs. Outside of that, it's just a matter of mitigating MB, unless enough people in your group die that you have to start dodging weights. You spend most of the fight hitting 1-2-3 on your bar.

Viridana, your point is completely for naught: Even with a 1/2/5 or 1/3/4 setup in Titan HM, it does not break the mechanics of the fight, period. Does it make it easier to down Heart Phase or make sure you have enough Heals to survive stomps, sure, but the mechanics are still there.

Not what I was talking about. I'm talking about the original Titan HM exploit that was hotfixed as soon as SE got wind of it. The one that did result in his standing there like a punching bag.

[Trance_Axel]

If your DPS is high enough, you can bypass phases in the Garuda HM fight. By your logic, aka bypassing mechanics of a fight via in-game strategy, that fight should be reworked, too, due to poor design.

What this boils down to is a fight being beaten one way that a certain community of people don't approve/will whine about until its changed.

[Daniolaut]

I'm talking about with the intended set up. Up until P5, you can stand in one spot perfectly still without eating a bomb. After heart, you might have to move to dodge a few bombs. Outside of that, it's just a matter of mitigating MB, unless enough people in your group die that you have to start dodging weights. You spend most of the fight hitting 1-2-3 on your bar.

I dont know what youre trying to argue but clearly there is no middle ground youre willing to even possibly discuss.

I play Paladin and i have every job to 50, and 9/9 relics and I highly enjoy Paladin. Its unfortunate you find PLD boring, to each their own i guess. Not sure what to tell you.

[Viridiana]

I play Paladin and i have every job to 50, and 9/9 relics and I highly enjoy Paladin. Its unfortunate you find PLD boring, to each their own i guess. Not sure what to tell you.

I'm saying tanking Titan Hard is not particularly challenging. This is particularly true for PLD, which has one rotation to spam (not counting oGCDs). You have two abilities to watch for: bombs, and MB. Bombs are all about positioning; each one (that I'm aware of) has a spot you can stand and be safe from all explosions. MB you actually have to pop a CD, but otherwise there's not much to it. You basically wait for landslide, pop a CD, and wait for the next landslide. . .

[KoujiGeki]

why is this even still here? the devs said its not an exploit and no one is forcing you to do the enrage method, or just make your own problem solved.

[Sax]

why is this even still here? the devs said its not an exploit and no one is forcing you to do the enrage method, or just make your own problem solved.

Because people know more about how the turn was intended to be played than the people who designed it.