The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[Mooserocka33]

Its not an exploit, its bad design. Enrage means if you don't kill it within the allotted time you lose. current ADS enrage means you can bypass all ADS mechanics, take 3 healers and automatically win, so all the work and effort put into ADS mechanics/design is out of the window, and turn 2 has turned into the new turn 3 but with free loot.

Tell developers that they should consider adjusting it not because its an exploit people are taking advantage of, but because ADS is a joke now and the

Atlus useless

Actually the people in static parties are not doing it this way. If they do they are screwing themselves for t4 or having to kick someone. It's good for using in a pug just to get it over with.

[inemnitable]

Actually the people in static parties are not doing it this way. If they do they are screwing themselves for t4 or having to kick someone. It's good for using in a pug just to get it over with.

My static group does it this way. I just swap to Bard or our Warrior swaps to Monk for turn 2. We also one-shot turn 4 this week, so I wouldn't say we are "screwing ourselves."

[Subucnimorning]

My static group does it this way. I just swap to Bard or our Warrior swaps to Monk for turn 2. We also one-shot turn 4 this week, so I wouldn't say we are "screwing ourselves."

It's not screwing yourself but it is a waste of time if you can do the actual mechanics.

[Allyra]

Actually the people in static parties are not doing it this way. If they do they are screwing themselves for t4 or having to kick someone. It's good for using in a pug just to get it over with.

My static does it. I switch from brd to whm, and one of our tank switches to brd. Since it is a static, no one gets screwed on gear either as we just do greed on the brd/tank drops.

It's not screwing yourself but it is a waste of time if you can do the actual mechanics.

Bathroom break during t2 or bathroom break before doing t4, makes no difference to me.

And yes, we used to do t2 just fine the normal way (only took two tries to beat it the first time we were in there). But hey if we can take a break, and have fun chewing the fat on vent with each other, we'll do it.

[Subucnimorning]

My static does it. I switch from brd to whm, and one of our tank switches to brd. Since it is a static, no one gets screwed on gear either as we just do greed on the brd/tank drops.


Bathroom break during t2 or bathroom break before doing t4, makes no difference to me.

And yes, we used to do t2 just fine the normal way (only took two tries to beat it the first time we were in there). But hey if we can take a break, and have fun chewing the fat on vent with each other, we'll do it.

I would rather finish t1-t5 in under a hour then take a break personally.

[Allyra]

I would rather finish t1-t5 in under a hour then take a break personally.

Then do it. I don't care which strat people use. But to assume a bubble of "wasting everyone's time" is a case on case basis.

[Kuroyasha]

I would rather finish t1-t5 in under a hour then take a break personally.

That bladder must be legendary