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  1. #311
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    kayuwoody's Avatar
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    Kayu Boo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    Actually the best solution would be to let the ADS continue to use all of its regular attack pattern even after enrage sets in. This way people would be forced to learn how to deal with the actual mechanics of this fight.
    I can't help thinking that's what the enrage really should be like.
    Also a real enrage is usually a big indication that you're out of time. That means increasing damage over time to the point where your healers cannot possibly keep up. ADS just keeps doing the same damage, and I believe most healers will actually be able to keep going for a ridiculously long time mana-wise, at least long enough to kill ADS several times over.
    T2's "enrage" really does seem to be an oversight as it's actually easier to heal than doing it the normal way.
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  2. #312
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    Merlinian's Avatar
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    Naudica Stormrage
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by SecsyMancat View Post
    Well, apparently you guys read bullet point 3 and ignored 1, 2, and 4. There are worse consequences to allowing this method than "scrubs get more easy gear". And that is that it unbalances the jobs looking for T4 groups.
    So your real concern is not abuse and cheating, its the elimination of one tank slot from groups, meaning your slot. Considering how the majority of tank players in this game acts, one less primadonna is a blessing.
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  3. #313
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    Lordfurious's Avatar
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    Aeris Gains
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlinian View Post
    So your real concern is not abuse and cheating, its the elimination of one tank slot from groups, meaning your slot. Considering how the majority of tank players in this game acts, one less primadonna is a blessing.
    Thats why I have a tank, dps, and healer :P
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  4. #314
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    Velev's Avatar
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    Velev Cold
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I see people still beating on that dead horse, or what's left of it.

    Good going, keep at it guys !
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  5. #315
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    Jermz Fizzlespark
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Our group was stupid, we always did it with 2 tanks, 3 healers, 3 DPS... Still won. Fun strat, Learning the other way in the next few attempts. This dead horse smells like snozberries!
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  6. #316
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    Langureion's Avatar
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    Naomi Langureion
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    Aegis
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    /popcorn

    What century is this again?
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  7. #317
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    Senmaera Beerbelly
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    Marauder Lv 50
    adding fuel to the flame i guess lol we dont even use a tank anymore we just use a titan egi here is the video lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dweXSzZ51Yw
    2 heals 5dps and a sum we always did it the right way till we decided to try out the easy enrage a couple of weeks ago and now we are playing with it
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  8. #318
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    Hiroradius's Avatar
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    It has been settled. SE themselves have said it's fine. There, settled.
    Sorry can't use that as an arguement, because SE also stated Warriors were fine, yet had to fix them, SE stated Dark Devices was working as intended but had to fix that.. So even having SE say it's ok, doesn't mean it is because they fix broken mechanics that they state are fine.
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  9. #319
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kayuwoody View Post
    I can't help thinking that's what the enrage really should be like.
    Also a real enrage is usually a big indication that you're out of time. That means increasing damage over time to the point where your healers cannot possibly keep up. ADS just keeps doing the same damage, and I believe most healers will actually be able to keep going for a ridiculously long time mana-wise, at least long enough to kill ADS several times over.
    T2's "enrage" really does seem to be an oversight as it's actually easier to heal than doing it the normal way.
    No the T2 enrage, the boss stops doing all his mechanic attacks and instead just does a large constant aoe damage that is suppose to wipe you.

    Basically what the boss should do is explode dealing 99999 damage to everyone lol, but people would just instead have paladin's use hallowed ground and become invincible for that attack and call that a legit strat to beating the boss.
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  10. #320
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroradius View Post
    Sorry can't use that as an arguement, because SE also stated Warriors were fine, yet had to fix them, SE stated Dark Devices was working as intended but had to fix that.. So even having SE say it's ok, doesn't mean it is because they fix broken mechanics that they state are fine.
    They changed WAR becaue of PLDs ability to be immune for 10 seconds thus made Caduceus in the earlier days easier with PLDs than WARs. So instead of changing mechanics they adjusted WAR to be on par.

    You are comparing apples to sausages.
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