The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

[HeroSamson]

Also for the second poster who said this is a whine thread why did you even come in here if you don't have anything remotely helpful to say?

Betcha you're one of those followers or elite players, follower the ones who buy their runs and act like they are apart of the elite gang or basically you are the type that kicks people from runs because you wanna win and don't give that person a chance because you judge them by gear.

[NRhodes]

Also for the second poster who said this is a whine thread why did you even come in here if you don't have anything remotely helpful to say?

Betcha you're one of those followers or elite players, follower the ones who buy their runs and act like they are apart of the elite gang or basically you are the type that kicks people from runs because you wanna win and don't give that person a chance because you judge them by gear.

Kudos to Samson for this post. *awaits nerdraging flame remarks from peanut gallery*

Viridiana, again, thank you for bringing my point even closer. ADS "exploit" completely and utterly stops ADS, the boss, from doing anything but his auto-attack AoE from 80%->0%. Child sit down before you don't have a leg to stand on.

[Vodomir]

Kudos to Samson for this post. *awaits nerdraging flame remarks from peanut gallery*

Viridiana, again, thank you for bringing my point even closer. ADS "exploit" completely and utterly stops ADS, the boss, from doing anything but his auto-attack AoE from 80%->0%. Child sit down before you don't have a leg to stand on.

With the "little" difference being that ADS is designed to act this way after the clicks run out, cause it utilizes the room to try to kill the party, while twintania was clearly not designed to stop all of its activities. There's a reason why you bring three healers to those infamous enrage runs ... on twintania, healers could basically go DPS or afk, I'd like to see the healers do that in T2 - good luck with it.

That said, I still don't get the idea behind those enrage kills - it takes way more time than just killing it the intended way and passing rot and evading some void zones isn't even that hard to begin with. Good luck to all of you in later turns, if you have to resort to those kind of "workarounds" to cirmcumvent given mechanics instead of learning how to deal with it.

[Allyra]

Viridiana, again, thank you for bringing my point even closer. ADS "exploit" completely and utterly stops ADS, the boss, from doing anything but his auto-attack AoE from 80%->0%. Child sit down before you don't have a leg to stand on.

Pretty sure you are the one that doesn't have a leg to stand on. ADS was design to do just exactly that, Twintania was not.

[Viridiana]

Viridiana, again, thank you for bringing my point even closer. ADS "exploit" completely and utterly stops ADS, the boss, from doing anything but his auto-attack AoE from 80%->0%. Child sit down before you don't have a leg to stand on.

First, calling your opponent "child" really gives your argument that additional weight it was lacking.

Now that the sarcasm's out of the way, would you mind explaining how an exploit that only requires the party to stand around auto-attacking secure in the knowledge that they'll safely win and a tactic that requires most groups to bring 3 healers and somewhat competent dps in order to not die are in any way similar?

[Noahlimits]

First, calling your opponent "child" really gives your argument that additional weight it was lacking.

Now that the sarcasm's out of the way, would you mind explaining how an exploit that only requires the party to stand around auto-attacking secure in the knowledge that they'll safely win and a tactic that requires most groups to bring 3 healers and somewhat competent dps in order to not die are in any way similar?

It can actually be two person healed really easily, just wanted to toss that in there.

But I'll let you two continue on your battle of wits.

[Viridiana]

It can actually be two person healed really easily, just wanted to toss that in there.

But I'll let you two continue on your battle of wits.

I did say "most groups."

But, just to use this as further example, I've seen groups fail the enrage strat even with 3 healers. Compare that to the Titan exploit, which required 1/8 of your party to not be afk (and a decent macro means even they could afk for probably 30 seconds at a time).

[Grym]

As much as I dislike people that use 0 click strat, it doesn't matter even if they nerf it:

2.2 Coil T6+ will be released, and I believe SE already said, when newer Coil Turns get released, older Turns will be nerfed to allow players to catch up at least to some extend. So, if they nerf the strat next patch, but then it will be nerf to the state that most people can clear anyway (for the catch up), it doesn't make any difference at all.

Unless you are demanding the nerf to the click strat right now instead of wait til 2.2

[SecsyMancat]

Since I wrote the OP I can guarantee you nothing was said about this being an exploit. As a matter of fact it was recognized as not being an exploit and has since been confirmed to not be an exploit so let's please stop referring it to being, or not being an exploit. It is not. SE has even come out and said they do not recognize it as being an exploit. Now that that is settled can we please keep the conversation relevant the the topic at hand. (For those of you who forgot the topic at hand is whether or not this fight should be adjusted so that the majority of the fight mechanics can't be bypassed) Thank You.

[Vodomir]

Since I wrote the OP I can guarantee you nothing was said about this being an exploit. As a matter of fact it was recognized as not being an exploit and has since been confirmed to not be an exploit so let's please stop referring it to being, or not being an exploit. It is not. SE has even come out and said they do not recognize it as being an exploit. Now that that is settled can we please keep the conversation relevant the the topic at hand. (For those of you who forgot the topic at hand is whether or not this fight should be adjusted so that the majority of the fight mechanics can't be bypassed) Thank You.

I don't see any needs to adjust the fight at this point. Player who aren't able to deal with the mechanics in a proper way will probably be in a rough spot in the later turns, so who cares?