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    Player
    Ayasee's Avatar
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    Ayase Natsume
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    The only people who would be defensive about this 'enrage' would be incompetent players and tanks.

    I mean, who doesn't want to be the only tank in the party to have no competition in rolling for tank gear? Turn 2/4 Enrage should've been an instant wipe like Turn 5.
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    Kouji Geki
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    Ha salted! Not an exploit. It's not cheating. Cheating is not being able to be killed like the tree exploit in what was it AK?
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Why is this not considered an exploit, but doing the same thing to Twintania was considered an exploit?

    Double standards.
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  4. 01-08-2014 05:41 PM
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    Sedant Reaux
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Its different because it is engaging a raged mob. A mechanic that would otherwise kill lesser groups. Try enraging Twintania and see what happens (double-dog dare you). The exploit where Twintania was bugged out from 80% to death was comparable to beating on a level 90 target dummy. ADS while enraged still does stuff, Object 199, its enraged move. If you can survive that GG. SE has even acknowledged this as a viable strategy not an exploit.
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    because what was being done on twintania was actually taking advantage of a bug. This is intended mechanic with ADS if you can out heal his enrage its a viable strat. If you cannot then the normal method is your way to go.
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    because what was being done on twintania was actually taking advantage of a bug. This is intended mechanic with ADS if you can out heal his enrage its a viable strat. If you cannot then the normal method is your way to go.
    The end result is the same: you circumvent every single one of the encounter's mechanics and it turns into 'kill it before you die.'
    I'm not sure why SE invested any time in designing ADS with so many mechanics if none of them need to be dealt with.

    This is a bad precedent.
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    Saxon Fox
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    Scholar Lv 60
    If it was a bug and you were not supposed to be able to survive enrage, it would be some other mechanic that would one shot everyone when you reached that point. It's working as intended and it's not a freakin exploit. Exactly the same mechanic as the end of T4, yet no one is crying into their pillows at night over healing through that now are they...

    Let it go already. Stop trying to police how other people play the game. It has no bearing on you at all and it's frankly none of your business.
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    Ma Nya
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    Tonberry
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Gosh I love this enrage method very much.
    It give people a chance to win T2 without worry much about Rot and other stuffs.
    If OP or anyone who want to fight the old way, you can make pt to do it yourself!
    ( But I bet no one will join you lolz )
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Petdo View Post
    ( But I bet no one will join you lolz )
    According to the responses, plenty will.

    That said, not sure if I am happy or disappointed with the official response.
    Still doesn't take away that some of the arguments and assumptions by both parties for and agains adjustments are quite amusing to read still.
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    Felis catus

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