Tank-specific tips for Extreme Primals

[kayuwoody]

That can just as easily work in reverse. Players who have multiple options and actually want to clear the content will play the class that has the most influence on the team's success.

If bad players truly shy away from difficult roles and would rather wait an hour for two tanks to show up, they got what they deserve. Anyway, I don't think switching to Triangle method Garuda is going to change this. JP servers do it this way, and guess what? Nobody wants to tank there either!

Ha Bokchoy, I'm going to play devil's advocate here again. I'm on Tonberry, and I used to main PLD. When I do this fight I prefer to MT Garuda simply because I'm very comfortable with avoiding double slipstreams if I'm doing 2 way, which is usual for English speaking PF groups. However, I strongly prefer the JP 3 way pull. The simple reason is that it removes most of the RNG in the fight.

Bear in mind that most groups clearing Garuda EX actually significantly outgear the content. That's the only reason why the 2 way actually works. If you DF it and end up with half a party of people who are around the ilvl requirement on DF, you'd be much better off doing a 3 way pull.

[Gamemako]

Fact: Tanks need this fight just as much as DPS or Healers do.

Worth noting that the Vortex Ring of Fending is generally considered to be crap.

Bear in mind that most groups clearing Garuda EX actually significantly outgear the content. That's the only reason why the 2 way actually works. If you DF it and end up with half a party of people who are around the ilvl requirement on DF, you'd be much better off doing a 3 way pull.

I've seen DF groups attempt it. 6/6 failed -- a pretty lovely record. In 2 of them, someone raged and the party bailed. In 1/6, we went back to DWW and the OT just couldn't keep aggro. On the other 3, we succeeded in clearing the fight using DWW. The reality is that when I eat DWW without any healer help and with no parries, I come out other side with over 4000 HP in reserve. I once had two good healers and ate no damage at all from the burst (Crit adlo + Stoneskin + Sacred Soil = two zeros from the WWs). I always run with my i82 pentameld set. You can certainly be geared in i67 and do DWW.

[bokchoykn]

Worth noting that the Vortex Ring of Fending is generally considered to be crap.

Most people who regularly clear Primals do it for weapons on alt classes, in addition to i90 accessories. So a player whose tank is their only means to beat Extreme Primals still needs to kill Garuda.

I don't think Vortex Ring of Fending is "crap". Yeah, secondary stats are not in the right place, but secondary stats are trash anyway. For those who can't get the Allagan Ring of Fending to drop, this is the only 15 VIT alternative (assuming your other ring is Hero's Ring of Fending). The ring is pretty sought after for that reason by both Tank mains and Tank alts alike. Some people prefer Ultima, but I think Vortex is still better.