Tank-specific tips for Extreme Primals

[Gamemako]

My bad on the second DWW. Also, most groups I've went into have told me (as OT) not to touch the spiney in twisters until someone has 2 stacks.

Politely tell them that they have no idea what they're talking about.

Plus, I've found that at times, the spiney has to be provoked more than once in twisters.

That can technically happen if you provoke before it sets aggro (immediately at spawn, when you should be hitting Chirada) or if you don't hit it with additional enmity after provoke (MT cooldowns will generate enough enmity to take it back). All of this is, again, a matter of not panicking.

If you're trying to provoke spiney at the beginning of twisters as OT, I've found that Provoke normally isn't available when Chirada dies and the MT needs to provoke spiney from you.

It will always be available in time for the swap, hitting 2 stacks just as Provoke comes off cooldown (it applies 1 stack every 20 seconds).

And then, if you provoke Suparna once provoke is available, the spiney will get to 2 stacks on the MT when your provoke is still on CD.

There's not enough time for it to go off at all -- you swap once only per phase. The MT will then damage the spiny to prepare for jump and, when Garuda jumps, finishes the Spiny. You will never be hit by supercyclone.

[Lemon8or]

It will always be available in time for the swap, hitting 2 stacks just as Provoke comes off cooldown (it applies 1 stack every 20 seconds).

It doesn't unfortunately. Spiny sometimes can apply 1 stack right away or before the first 20 seconds is over. In solo healing party, if I OT, I usually find myself waiting on Provoke to be off CD (I pull suparna away from MT so melee can hit her safely) if I use it on Spiny right as it spawns.

[Versiroth]

It doesn't unfortunately. Spiny sometimes can apply 1 stack right away or before the first 20 seconds is over.

This has been my experience as well. It seems the safer bet is to just leave Garuda and Suparna on the MT the whole time. This way, provoke is always available for spiny and once Chirada is dead, all melee have to do is wait for Garuda to WW and then jump in to finish off Suparna. Plus, with two healers on the MT at that point, there's no reason he should die once Chirada is down.

I have a question though. How do you handle pulling the spiny as MT mostly? When I tab to spiny in twisters, I can't see Suparna at all. Do you just let the OT sit with two stacks until after she slipstreams for the second time before moving in to tab/provoke the spiny? I find that often times, I'll get hit because I go in to provoke and she slip streams me from behind.