Tank-specific tips for Extreme Primals

[Lemon8or]

Managing cooldowns for two wicked wheels, dodging two sets of slipstreams and watching the OT stacks for spiny is impossible.

1. Put waymark on the ground. A in North West for main tank. B in South West for range DPS. C in South East for off tank.
2. Put either your off-tank or garuda as your focus target. If you put garuda, move the party list close to center so you don't have to look on the side to see stacks. Move focus target and the target bar to center of the screen so you see everything in the center.
3. Make a macro that counts 20-22 seconds with a sound effects. Hit it when Garuda spawn the sister. It's not accurate but on average it's enough to remind you to put up cooldown. Make it so when you hear the sound effect, put up cooldown. PLD's duration is long so you're sure to have it. If you have garuda on focus target, when you see the cast bar start moving, it's slipstream. Wicked Wheel usually follows in tornadoes phase.
4. Dodging slipstream is simple as watching when garuda or suparna stop attacking and run through them. Their animation is pretty noticeable so train your eyes to detect sudden stop of movement.

[krazyrs]

Dps complaining that I'm not watching text chat as well for their wanting me to move where I tank them is just absurd.

How are other people actually able to do this? Is watching five mechanics at once just easy for other people and I can't manage it? Or is there some trick that lets you ignore some of it?

i Focus Target Garuda at the very get go, 2.16 hot fix has it stay up even if she jumps so i can see her slip + im mainly targeting suparna to see theirs
in the bubble ill fast > savage garuda > then roh suparna + flash garuda+suparna
then when im in the NW corner i fast > cos > savage suparna and roh garuda
when they jump dodge feather > on reappear pop 2 CD > flash > cont tanking

[KlingybunFistelvase]

I have target and focus in the center, been trying to switch focus between Garuda and OT depending on phase. I'll try moving the party bar to the center as well.

I feel like when I move through one to avoid slipstream, the other turns to face me (and the raid) and then does her slip stream. Any place I can move to that won't endanger the rest of the raid? For that matter, how do I get close enough to taunt spiny without facing them the wrong way? So far my entire plan is just hoping this doesn't happen and sometimes I'm wrong and kill us all.

[Shinkyo]

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There's certainly a lot of things to keep track but you don't need to track all of it at the same time since they all happen at different timings.
Basically, at the start of the last phase:
- look out for slipstream from garuda and Supprana, and avoid them (you don't care about spiny at this point)
- then, look out for friction in order to anticipate DWW (again, ignore spiny) and pop your CD
- right after DWW, the OT (or whoever has spiny) will get 2 stacks, now is the time to pick it up with provoke.
- Garuda will do another slipstream as you're provoking spiny so you need to get behind garuda. it's also ok to take the hit if it gets too confusing.
- from there, you don't have to worry about your stacks. you'll reach 2 stacks but the vortex will restart before you can get a 3rd one.

So yeah, many things to track but all in a sequence so you just have to focus on the event that's coming next.

[Lemon8or]

You can bait the slipstream so the party is always at 90 degree angle from you. For example, during the first add spawn, if the party is at center and you are at north, bait first slipstream so garuda will do hers westward and run through garuda. This usually means Suparna's slipstream will be eastward and you just have to run through suparna. Party members are never in the line of slipstream. During tornadoes phase, the space is a bit tighter so pull them both to the edge of the arena, bait first slipstream inward of the center, second slipstream outward of the center THEN go to pick up spiny. This allows you to pick up spiny safely without you or party eating slipstream. Of course, the OT should wait near the other side of the center tornado with spiny ready for you to provoke. If you're quick-thinking, you can adapt to it but if not, practice makes perfect. After a while, it will become natural to you.

[KlingybunFistelvase]

173 failed attempts after this last one. How many before it becomes natural?

[Faeye]

Phase 1:
Have Garuda on Focus.
Sister will spawn when Garuda hits 75% health. Prep your combo so that you can pickup of one of the sister right away. And stay target on the sister that you pulled.
Should you not messed up your pull, as you reach your destination(usually North), Garuda will start Slip Stream, simply move to her side to avoid Garuda' SS and bait Sister SS to that side direction then avoid both SS and back to North position.
Then you will see Sister casting Friction. At this time, if the Sister that is being tanked by OT is not near 50%, Double Wicked Wheels can occur before force jump.
After Wicked wheel, the OT sister should be dead. You should switch target to Garuda and let OT take the sister off you. You can choose to tank both sister and Garuda, it's up to u and the party. Remember to dodge the SS from Sister after Wicked Wheel also; Sister use SS about 5 secs after WW.
In fast DPS party, OT sister die during jump so MT only eat Wicked Wheel from Garuda only.


Phase 2: repeat phase

2.1
During the Eye of the Tornado phase, 2nd stacks from Spiny occur right when Garuda turn around to do her 2nd Friction which is right before 2nd Slipstream. OT always should pickup Spiny at beginning of this phase.
Garuda attack pattern during this phase is Slip Stream>Friction>Friction>SlipStream.

2.2
During tornado phase, 2nd stacks from Spiny occur after Double wicked wheel(single if one sister die fast) and 4th stacks occur after Garuda does wicked wheel for 2nd time. So, Spiny stacks happen 4 times during this phase.
As MT, you don't need to watch for Spiny stacks until you get hit by Wicked Wheel. If the 2 stacks is on OT then you need to pick up Spiny from OT. Otherwise, OT should pick up Spiny.

As you pull Garuda and Siter to your corner, Garuda will use SS. After your dodge Garuda SS, in general, 3 things can happen depend on how fast is your group DPS.
Fast DPS:
You will see force jump during mid cast of Sister's Friction. After feather rain, Sister use Slip Stream then Garuda's Wicked Wheel; double WW if the OT sister is still alive.

Normal DPS:
You will see force jump during mid cast of Sister's Slip Stream. After feather rain, double WW come right away.

Slow DPS:
You will see Sister does Friction then Slip Stream then Double Wicked Wheel then a force jump. Slow DPS can cause by 3 things:slow party DPS in general, 1 or more DPS is dead some how or Sisters have too many defensive stacks due to they're not far apart.

After this first set of WW, check for Spiny Stacks and do Spiny swap if necessary. Don't forget to dodge Sister Slip Stream and follow by Garuda's Slip Stream. And another WW after Garuda's Slip Stream.

[Merovingian1]

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[Lemon8or]

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[kayuwoody]

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That was mean, but accurate, and I lol'd.