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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    No, but if someone's trying to do a rifftrax in the middle of the theater when it's my first time seeing it and there's absolutely no reason to think that they've, for example, reserved this viewing of the movie for this purpose, you can damn well bet I'm gonna tell them to shut up and let me enjoy the movie.
    If one person in the theatre is doing so, and thus disrupting everyone's viewing pleasure, then yes, it's fine to tell them to stop. But if the entire theatre is doing that? While it still may not be enjoyable or how things "are supposed to go", if it's one voice amid an entire theatre of people doing that, then the better thing to do is either sit and bear it since you can't do much about it either way, OR just walk out of the theatre and hope your next attempt at viewing the movie isn't ruined by people making noise.

    Might sound like crappy options, but that's more or less what would be available to you (within this context, anyway. We all know in the real world that entire theatre would get expelled out of the building for disruption, but I digress). In game terms, this means that if you really HAVE to use Duty Finder/Roulette to get through your final story quests, you just should be prepared to maybe have to leave a party due to conflict of desire and interest for the run. You cannot force 90% of the party to do what YOU want them to do, and attempting to is just going to cause everyone problems and unnecessary anger. If, when you ask, people won't stop for cutscenes, you can either skip the cutscenes to keep up, watch the cutscenes but likely get left behind by the rest of the party, or ask the party to kick you so you can requeue and hope for a party more in line with your own interests.

    But honestly, at this point, due to how many are using MS DR for philo tomes and thus speedrunning, it's likely a lot less of a hassle to put together a party with Party Finder who will all desire to/be willing to watch cutscenes/are also doing their story.
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    The Praetorium is really cool, so I definitely understand wanting to see all the cutscenes, because it makes it so much more epic.

    However, with Duty Finder, you get what you get. Be it everyone deciding to watch cutscenes, or everyone deciding not to. Regardless of which side of the fence you're on, if you want everyone in your party to be a certain way or behave a certain way, I suggest forming a premade through party finder where you outline your guidelines and expectations.
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    SOLUTION START YOUR OWN PARTY IN PARTY FINDER AND MAKE SURE YOU TELL EVERYONE ITS TO WATCH THE CUTSCENES
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    Last edited by Ezikiel; 01-09-2014 at 12:20 PM.

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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    A lot of the posters in this thread should either:

    *Switch to decaf/stop guzzling Red Bull

    -or-

    *Switch to Call of Duty or any other FPS copycat that appeals to ADHD-addled no-lifers.

    Seriously, would it kill some of you to let new players have a few minutes to actually enjoy a game they're putting money into? I really don't think SE is sending you checks for completing dungeons in record time.
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    Magis Luagis
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    The last Praetorium run I did was nice. One of the players wanted to watch cutscenes, so we let him. We started the fight on Ultima early though since there is no boss block for him. We still had 70min on the clock or so, so the argument that you can fail the duty is BS (since you skip 70% of the dungeon ANYWAY).

    TBH, I am surprised SE didn't fix the magitek transporter exploit.
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Wow never thought I would see people using rude against people wanting to experience something correctly for the first time. And then justify it as majority rules. And then to top it off claim logic with the if everyone jumps off a bridge you should jump off bridge defense.

    People are in fact entitled to seek enjoyment to their specific standards as well as to complain about them when it is in fact not fair. If you start the game late at launch you were rushed via speed run for tomes, 2.05 duty finder for ever, 2.1 speed ran over for tomes again. Regardless if it is troubling to you or not it is not fair and only because people who are completely capable of making it so choose not to give an experience they recieved or the experience they lost because of the same situation. For people so concerned with not being rude, fair play, and appropriate entitlements you are going against those very ideals logically for your own self gain.

    Sorry your experience was ruined OP I can only recommend shouting and party finder posting with story watch all cutscenes selected. Cheers
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    Last edited by Sakasa; 01-10-2014 at 01:20 AM. Reason: txt limit
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    Ever thought that there might be a small possibility that duty roulette is meant for new players without free company and enough people to run these dungeons, so they can finish the storyline without begging other players for days to help them?
    Locking players who didn't complete the storyline out of this would defeat the purpose of duty roulette.
    Or would you join someone who is looking to do castrum for the main story?
    I rather have duty roulette put me in a group with them and get 300% reward for my time.

    For speedruns you can always join or make a group via duty finder or party finder, or you go with your FC.
    When joining the "Main Scenario" DR, what do you expect?
    It doesn't read "+200 Tomestone Scenario" or "Speedrun Scenario", so expect people to do it for the main scenario.
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    Last edited by Kyana; 01-10-2014 at 01:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyana View Post
    Ever thought that there might be a small possibility that duty roulette is meant for new players without free company and enough people to run these dungeons, so they can finish the storyline without begging other players for days to help them?
    Locking players who didn't complete the storyline out of this would defeat the purpose of duty roulette.
    Or would you join someone who is looking to do castrum for the main story?
    I rather have duty roulette put me in a group with them and get 300% reward for my time.

    For speedruns you can always join or make a group via duty finder or party finder, or you go with your FC.
    When joining the "Main Scenario" DR, what do you expect?
    It doesn't read "+200 Tomestone Scenario" or "Speedrun Scenario", so expect people to do it for the main scenario.
    Except that it DOES give 300 extra tomes a day, so some people are going to run it for that sole purpose regardless of how it "should" be used. Any kind of Duty Finder run is going to likely end up with people wanting to do things differently, and most of the time, I see CM and Prae DR runs being speedran by all or 90% of the party.That's just how it is now, anyone using a DF kind of thing of any run should expect people like that, who skip cutscenes and do the dungeon the fastest way they know how, just as people should be aware they may get people who want to take the dungeon slowly (within an acceptable manner, of course) and watch cutscenes. Anyone who wants an entire party to watch cutscenes are better off using Party Finder now, since it is seeing a lot of good use as well as allows you to make it clear what you expect for the run, whereas you'll have to play the game of chance in a DF or DR and hope you get a party of people who have similar interest for the run as you do.

    It's just rude to expect a group of complete strangers to wait up on you if they don't want to. Asking people, if you really HAVE to use the DR for finishing your main story quests, if they can wait for you to finish cutscenes is perfectly fine, and you are presented with more options if you make your intentions known at the start of the run. Now, you are always at liberty to watch cutscenes at your leisure regardless of how the run is planned to go, just do not always expect everyone to wait on you if you do this.

    If people don't want to wait for cutscenes, it's easy to ask them to kick you so that they don't have to deal with one member of the party getting locked out of fights, and you can either decide to make a party finder group that WILL watch cutscenes, or hope the next party on the roulette or DF will be more what you want. It isn't that hard, people just make this more of a big deal than it needs to be.
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 01-10-2014 at 03:43 PM.

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