Broken Hearted

[Physic]

Maybe this is the biggest problem and perhaps they should take it down and everyone that is playing now should be beta testers. I want this game to succeed and if they have to do it by taking it down so be it......in my mind whatever it takes!

the fact that it is live is irrelevant, thats why people have test servers. And yes game have been created from scratch faster than we have gotten any real updates. It has nothing to do with it being live, because 6 months is still a long ass time. Whatever the reason is, they need faster content. No online game i know has come up with less content 9 months from release.

[Physic]

Going back into beta would generally mean that they'll be wiping character data as well for the re-release. Which I'm all for, for a variety of reasons.

ah i see you just want a wipe in general, well im against this idea.

[TonyMontana]

ah i see you just want a wipe in general, well im against this idea.

No way I would accept a wipe. When a company tells you the will NEVER wipe the characters then they do they arent trust worthy and I would never give that company another penny.

[Nikita]

No way I would accept a wipe. When a company tells you the will NEVER wipe the characters then they do they arent trust worthy and I would never give that company another penny.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't wipe them as they already promised they wouldn't in a letter from the producer... That would just dig them even further.

[Gundammeister]

Dont worry bro we will be getting this amazing feature called AUTO attack soon. They have been talking about it since the begining of 2011 and its almost here! On top of auto attack at some point in the distant future they will be adding a mode of travel where you ride an animal. These are called MOUNTS! This is cutting edge stuff so dont expect it out anytime soon but maybe summer of 2012 your character will be able to ride in style!

.......LMAO!

[Wolfie]

ah i see you just want a wipe in general, well im against this idea.

It's not that I really want a wipe, it's that it's going to be hell without one. The economy's FUBAR with all the multimillionaires running around, the lack of low level gear, oversaturation of mid and high level gear, etc. I can't imagine SE being able to fix the inflation and overstocked end game market without also putting new players at a disadvantage. But if the system is fixed (with proper gil and item sinks starting from level 1 all the way to level 50), and given a reboot, it'll be much better.

There's also the issue that any content they make now is going to be aimed almost exclusively at high level players, because that's what the entire user base is. It makes no sense to make low level content with the game's current user base, but then if they don't, new players are going to be turned off by the lack of fun stuff to do.

[Archadius]

Look I want this game to succeed but the things that people I have seen complain about worry me. I think with the class system we are going the wrong way with the "job system." I think the nostalgia of FFXI is what is doing this to us. We need to start thinking outside the box and quit demanding BLM, WHM, DKN Etc. jobs. We sorta already have those jobs they are just no called that and let be honest with the system we have now we can make each job our own the way we want it. Maybe I am wrong and people want cookie cutter job where everyone has the same stats and the only thing that sets us apart is the gear we wear. The amazing thing is maybe I am wrong and the "job system" will not bring in jobs called White Mage, Black Mage Etc.

I think the job system (if it's what I'm expecting) might do some good. We will be able to avoid cookie cutter builds because even though the physical level is being removed, instead we get "x points per rank per class" to distribute so you can still customize your character however you wish (unlike FFXI), but it also allows you to effectively play multiple classes (primarily both a DoW and a DoM since they are such opposites with stats). Then again they could just FUBAR it and my previous statement would be moot lol

In regards to the world wipe discussion... I really can't see it happening. Yoshi-P specifically stated that it never would, and gave good reasoning as to why. SE has gone back on promises before, but I seriously think that would be the last straw for many fans. Even though a server wipe may actually do some good and strike a much needed balance in the game, it wouldn't be worth the thousands upon thousands (if they have that many) subscriptions that SE would lose to pure fan rage upon making such a maneuver.

[viion]

The economy's FUBAR with all the multimillionaires running around

I understand this, due to there being nothing to do in-game at all I've spent 2 months now crafting up shards every night. If I was to lose all that effort though I would quit. It isn't even just about the gil, all my ranks too I'd be pissed to lose. I am extremely against a wipe and I guarantee you it would cause a shit storm haha.

This thread makes me quite sad but I empathise with a lot of what is being said, with it being SE with expect much more and this silence is not doing them any favours because its making us more angry and also a lot of us are building up 1.18 to be this big massive change and I have a feeling it is going to upset a lot of people. I am slowly getting into the mindset of this game will not be good for at least a year, maybe never. They're just too slow and not willing to invest thus they will always be behind.

There are things like people expecting a lot of that list in 1.18 when its probably just stats adjustment and auto-atk, stamina removal.

[Wolfie]

In regards to the world wipe discussion... I really can't see it happening. Yoshi-P specifically stated that it never would, and gave good reasoning as to why. SE has gone back on promises before, but I seriously think that would be the last straw for many fans. Even though a server wipe may actually do some good and strike a much needed balance in the game, it wouldn't be worth the thousands upon thousands (if they have that many) subscriptions that SE would lose to pure fan rage upon making such a maneuver.

And that's the sad part. They can't do it now, but if they don't, this game is going to be very hard to fix. They already made low levels a nuisance, to make sure that people get to mid and high levels. That means that they're not planning and probably won't be adding any low level content to the game.

That makes the game fall into a vicious cycle. Without people to test or use low level content, they will make less (or none) of it. With less (or no) low level content, new players will be less likely to stick around. That just means that there will be a higher concentration of high level players. If they focus on making low level content for a patch cycle or two, few people will try those, and the player base will be pissed off.

It's a really crappy situation.

FFXI had some pretty big problems with this. 2005-2008 era FFXI was really cruel on new players, and it wasn't until late TOAU and WOTG that it was fixed. WOW had major problems for a while too. They somewhat solved the problem by flat out reducing the amount of exp needed to go through vanilla WOW, and then the first expansion, etc. But it wasn't until halfway through their second expansion, when they redid all the lowbie quests and levelup dungeons, that their subscription rate started picking up. And then their third expansion, which focused almost entirely on low to mid level content, was a huge hit. Ironically, they focused so much on low level content, that they recently lost about 10% of their user base due to end game being really slim.

[viion]

@Wolfie thats hardly the case though is it...

1-20 goes in like 2 days.

Which by then you're at mid rank and thats where all the good content is, As you slowly move to 30 you have the most NMs, All job quests are midnight and like 90% of current sidequests are all midrank to low level. half 1-20.

or am i missing the point? XD