Planned Adjustments to PvP

[Rawkzor]

wow 1 blizzard and u have full mp in 3sec again >.>

I meant in terms of "spammability" it's not like you're going to be getting a whole lot of consecutive Flares off.

[Akiza]

The Summoners who are saying they are overpowered at exaggerating. Enkindle in General will crit for around 1448 damage or 848 damage on average depending if Garuda or Ifit is out and even to one shot an entire team the Summoner will need 7.5 sec to set up the dots 1s to bane and fester and another 2.5s to cast Rouse, Spur and Enkindle so that is 11s to setup without stuns or interrupts meanwhile a Dragoon or Warrior would've exceeded our damage by the Time we set up. So I agree Summoner's are overpowered based on damage but the stuns and interrupts balance everything out with the exception of premade groups that use Double Summoner or Double Caster

[Rawkzor]

The Summoners who are saying they are overpowered at exaggerating. Enkindle in General will crit for around 1448 damage or 848 damage on average depending if Garuda or Ifit is out and even to one shot an entire team the Summoner will need 7.5 sec to set up the dots 1s to bane and fester and another 2.5s to cast Rouse, Spur and Enkindle so that is 11s to setup without stuns or interrupts meanwhile a Dragoon or Warrior would've exceeded our damage by the Time we set up. So I agree Summoner's are overpowered based on damage but the stuns and interrupts balance everything out with the exception of premade groups that use Double Summoner or Double Caster

But you just said on the last page that you got 2400 crits while testing it on a dummy? Maybe you're just undergeared, and/or playing your abilities wrong? Or maybe you're trolling.

[Lunami]

Anyone saying bards are overpowered must be off their rocker. Funniest thing I've ever heard. I'm a healer and I definitely find them annoying, but if I'm just standing out in the open letting them wail on me then I deserve to die. Pillars and walls are your friends.

[Akiza]

The problem in pvp is not classes being overpowered it is geared pre made teams facing under geared pugs the majority of players don't have there ilvl 70 pvp gear yet they are still using there ilvl 90 Pve gear. Square should hold off on class adjustment until more players are at least in ilvl 70 pvp gear. Summoners and their Pet scale well with there gear but without gear they really suck. So if there is a problem with Summoner being overpowered Square should adjust the stats on the gear rather than the Summoner itself

[Rawkzor]

The problem in pvp is not classes being overpowered it is geared pre made teams facing under geared pugs the majority of players don't have there ilvl 70 pvp gear yet they are still using there ilvl 90 Pve gear. Square should hold off on class adjustment until more players are at least in ilvl 70 pvp gear. Summoners and their Pet scale well with there gear but without gear they really suck. So if there is a problem with Summoner being overpowered Square should adjust the stats on the gear rather than the Summoner itself

The problem is, you keep posting. You're clearly not a professional game designer, and you haven't run the numbers and done the testing. There will be class adjustments. No matter how hard you try to argue it, or how many posts and threads you make, these changes will happen whether you like them or not.

[LovelessG]

The problem in pvp is not classes being overpowered it is geared pre made teams facing under geared pugs the majority of players don't have there ilvl 70 pvp gear yet they are still using there ilvl 90 Pve gear. Square should hold off on class adjustment until more players are at least in ilvl 70 pvp gear. Summoners and their Pet scale well with there gear but without gear they really suck. So if there is a problem with Summoner being overpowered Square should adjust the stats on the gear rather than the Summoner itself

You should just stop your making your self look bad, because your numbers are no where near correct.. But then again when you said sleep doesn't break with dmg, ALL your comments became mute then lol.

[Rawkzor]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ade-sell-sleep
You make posts like this, and call others trolls. You are just terrible at making an argument. I have yet to claim anything as OP, other than what was stated by Yoshi Pi himself, when he stated that SMN damage far exceeds other classes. Currently from what I can see, there is a large agreement that Sleeps duration is too long. You seem to feel the need to keep coming on the PvP forums and trying to refute it incessantly. As far as we know, there is no planned change for Sleep, yet you are all over the forums about it.

I made a sarcastic post on the "Fix Marauder" thread, and you're trying to tell me I'm crying over every class being OP. Get real. Sleep/repose duration and SMN damage are the only real issues right now, aside from jumping, which isn't associated with any class anyway.

[realistic1]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ade-sell-sleep
You make posts like this, and call others trolls. You are just terrible at making an argument.

The entire point of the above post (which evidently went over your head) is that one needs to look at an ENTIRE class before calling something/someone OP and that if everyone thinks sleep is so OP, here is a list of items I would freely give up this ability for to balance my class if sleep is removed or nerfed. You completely missed the point of the post but….not a surprise.

I have yet to claim anything as OP other than what was stated by Yoshi Pi himself, when he stated that SMN damage far exceeds other classes.

If sleep is not OP, there is absolutely no reason to make a change to sleep then.

Anyone can do a simply search on your bias on blm and whm to see what you are actively trying to promote to others as OP and needing changes.

As far as we know, there is no planned change for Sleep, yet you are all over the forums about it.

I am all over the forums defending against your whining that sleep should not go unchecked and should face changes and your insistence that there seems to be a huge issue with BLMs sleeping entire teams for a full minute and the issue of so many players staying in full 30 second CCs. This was the nonsense I was addressing but seeing you just now admit sleep is not OP, no need for further discussion.

[Akiza]

I tested the Enkindle damage with Garuda in my ilvl 90 pve gear so that is where the 2400 crit from aerial burst comes from. I tested Enkindle with my ilvl 55 pvp gear for a about 15 matches and Enkindle did on average 848 crit damage and with my ilvl 90 pve gear enkindle does 1500 crit damage on average so Summoner's damage is not overpowered it is how the Summoner's damage scales with gear