Why Does Titan (Hard) Make People Dumb...

[Lord_Zlatan]

So I am curious why Ifrit Hard, no problem, Garuda Hard, no problem, Titan Hard, people cant get out of their own way. This fight as the 2 before them is very methodical, but it seems as though everyone loses their mind and all of a sudden forgets that they need to avoid AoE's or stay within casting distance for medica when Tumult occurs.

Im convinced that it's the music. .. especially after heart. Its crazy and matches the frantic nature of the fight for most.... probably makes them panic more.

[Fumamyena]

Im convinced that it's the music. .. especially after heart. Its crazy and matches the frantic nature of the fight for most.... probably makes them panic more.

This is Classic!

[Katchii]

I think a lot of it is this "bad publicity" that Titan HM has gotten that makes it really initimidating for players newer to the fight. He's this huge, threatening, party killing boss that thousand of people fail to kill every day, so people go into it with a no win attitude and then don't win. Myself included. It can be stressful, and stress causes people to panic and/ or make bad decisions.

Once you've done it a few times (for many it takes more than a few times...) and see the mechanics, it gets easier to deal with and you're able to be more objective about the fight and are a lot more situationally aware, rather than simply standing in awe/ terror/ whatever of Titan the party killer.

Sounds stupidly cheesy...but I know that's what affected me.

[Imapooonu]

The only thing I hate are people's excuses for why they cant dodge. "lag" being the prominent excuse. You can't use that excuse anymore! Not since 2.1 up'd the response time on character positioning!

This made me lol. So true.

I know people still lag (doesn't really matter the dungeon). But let's face the following like adults shall we?:

*We wiped once at the heart, you don't need to go to the store.

*I know, lag me, lag you, lag for us all lol. Cool story.

*No, building lb3 won't make a difference, lb2 doesn't either in most cases.

*Ok buddy. You know I inspected you, and ya the pvp accessories aren't absolutely horrible for pve, but you're not main tanking.

*Who is this Dragoon with all classes gear on 0.o

The only group I had in DF that finished started like this:

"Let's rok"

"Volume up"

"Pulling in 3,2...."

[Little_Gray]

This all. Where the hell does someone get the experience? Premades only want experienced people. Everybody says DF is for learning, but yet after a wipe in DF everybody leaves cause they only want to win right away. The what, force your friends/guild to drag you through it? This game's endgame is looking more and more like TERA, where people only wanted DF to be used for speedruns and kicked all the newbies, saying they had to learn "somewhere else" =|
No wonder in the end people resort to buying runs, to get relic.

Watch a video and go join a premade. As long as you understand that standing in shit is bad and requires you to move then you have all the experience that you need. They dont need to know you have never done the fight before and wont know until it is over. If its a farm group as long as you were not an idiot during the fight they wont have any problem with it.

[Darkwalker53]

This thread did make me laugh as I have had nothing but trouble on this instance myself. I have not attempted this since the 2.1 rollout so not sure how that has impacted on the performance. As someone who plays predominantly a healer and with 300ms ping, I really found Titan tough, not impossible but damned hard. I had to memorise each wave and anticipate the inductions of what he was doing. I only ever died if someone else dropped a plume away from the group in the way I was retreating/moving.

On my only successful attempt I was killed within the last few seconds with a Landslide of all things (how embarassing!)

When you get a group of new people it is always amusing to watch them run around like headless chickens and wipe the group, once. After that it is no longer funny...

[Tlamila]

Watch a video and go join a premade. As long as you understand that standing in shit is bad and requires you to move then you have all the experience that you need. They dont need to know you have never done the fight before and wont know until it is over. If its a farm group as long as you were not an idiot during the fight they wont have any problem with it.

I guess they'll know you don't have experience the moment you screw up stuff? I always guessed experienced is someone who can by now do the fight by clockwork, and I'm very far from that. Especially because there's difference between knowing you shouldn't stand in shit (I guess even dumbs know that?) and actually managing to do that. I for sure can dodge landslides but plumes or however you call them..it's another story. With my ping I need to know exactly where "bad" will appear to move away beforehand or there's no way I can't get out.

As someone who plays predominantly a healer and with 300ms ping, I really found Titan tough, not impossible but damned hard. I had to memorise each wave and anticipate the inductions of what he was doing.

This this and this. Also as healer you need to stop and cast a lot....maybe I should wait for my Bard to be at that point and learn the fight with that class first?

[Rochetm]

Garuda sister phase is about 1203912309 times more chaotic than anything titan does. Titan is scripted and is done the exact same way no mater what your group makeup is... If your group is good at dodging you will get hit the exact same way every single time. Sister phase changes greatly depending on the group.

We do solo heal titans all the time and I see lots of healers wanting to try solo healing it. Not many want to do that with garuda.

But but but if you get hit with a bomb/plume/landslide you die... So true. Ever stood in a tornado/slipstream on garuda?

[Tlamila]

I think Garuda just has much much less to dodge, that's why it goes smoother. It has more randomness, but for a static pattern to be a relevant factor you need to learn it first. That's why people wo ran it at nauseam preach how it's terribly easy, while many others find it an impossible nightmare. Clockwork mechanic, your hand go alone without even thinking after you learn.

[Megido]

Am i the only one that did titan without any sort of rotation or clue by simply moving when he turned around...?