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    RNG Logic [Concerned] Question

    Can SE explain how RNG makes it possible to see drg/brd loot in BCB on every single boss for 3 weeks straight. Or how 95% of the drops in CT are Onion Armor? Literally run CT like 10 times, onion armor every time.

    Call me w/e, but I feel like SE has weighted rng towards drg/mnk/brd. Seen 3 tank pieces in bcb in 3 months. Seen 1 tank piece in 10+ CT runs. But I've seen enough other crap to drop to completely gear 4 drg's, 5 mnks, and 8 brds.

    And this isn't even just about tank loot. We've cleared turn 1 every week since September, what 16 times, and the healer gloves haven't dropped once. But we have 5 pld shields, and 4 DRG chests, etc.

    I seriously think drop rates are bugged, or they are based on certain weather and times of day. Because I run stuff the same time every day, and get the same drops almost everytime I run.
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    Last edited by Ryios; 12-27-2013 at 04:48 PM.

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    There is no weighting. The items are chosen randomly from the known loot tables. There WAS an issue with certain items being in the wrong loot tables resulting in one of the chests in turn 1 more frequently turning up DRG than anything else, but that was fixed.

    For every time you've gotten DRG, some other group has gotten healer gear just as many times. Or SMN. Or whatever else.
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    Well, still feels bugged to me. Last 2 weeks were after the fix, drg chest twice in a row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Well, still feels bugged to me. Last 2 weeks were after the fix, drg chest twice in a row.
    Random number generator is random.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Random number generator is random.

    Actually, technically, it's not. It's pseudo-random. They tend to use "random" strings of numbers (seeds, pre-generated) and then just sequentially go through them. CPU cannot actually generate a random number as, by definition, their hardware is designed to be well known and consistent (the opposite of random).

    But yeah. "Random" is "random."
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    You know what's funny is that back in 1.x it was acknowledged that then rng implementation was pretty terrible and needed to be overhauled. Do any crafting or melding? I swear that the rng we have now is the same one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaretto08 View Post
    You know what's funny is that back in 1.x it was acknowledged that then rng implementation was pretty terrible and needed to be overhauled. Do any crafting or melding? I swear that the rng we have now is the same one.
    You might be on to something... But oh dear god, the RNG in 1.0, aaahhhh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaretto08 View Post
    You know what's funny is that back in 1.x it was acknowledged that then rng implementation was pretty terrible and needed to be overhauled. Do any crafting or melding? I swear that the rng we have now is the same one.
    Ummm... I did play Version 1 and don't remember any such statement. Gonna need a citation on this one.
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    Random is random I guess. Last week run of CT, about 70% of the drops are either for whm(sch) or blm(smn). This week however, just last night 1 of the runs consisted of pld(war)'s items with 1 monk item dropped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Can SE explain how RNG makes it possible to see drg/brd loot in BCB on every single boss for 3 weeks straight. Or how 95% of the drops in CT are Onion Armor? Literally run CT like 10 times, onion armor every time.

    Call me w/e, but I feel like SE has weighted rng towards drg/mnk/brd. Seen 3 tank pieces in bcb in 3 months. Seen 1 tank piece in 10+ CT runs. But I've seen enough other crap to drop to completely gear 4 drg's, 5 mnks, and 8 brds.
    Bro I'm a monk and I did 9 CT Runs and all that dropped was BRD and TANK gear that's life, the loot drops are random sometimes you win sometimes you lose. To say Monk always drop is a lie, my last few runs just proved that!.
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